Ha yes! The “tankie” are the ones blaming individuals instead of the system, everyone knows that. It’s so funny how other instances are just making shit up about us. I guess they must have run out of things we actually said that they can misinterpret and fearmonger about so now they have to manufacture artificial ones.
“Liberal communism”. Nothing to add there, really.
You see this kids? This is how you’ll end up if you don’t read theory.
Marxism-Leninism literally does have plans for this…it’s called a vanguard party and it’s how the Bolsheviks took over Russia away from the czars. Mao came along and said “Eh I don’t think we need an explicitly vanguard party, the peasants are pissed off enough already,” and that’s how the CPC took control of China.
I’ve never read more than a few snippets of Mao or Lenin and I know this. The whole Marxism/Leninism/Maoism dichotomy is based on how these different developments in socialist thinking led to plans for revolution. Saying “They never have any plans!” when the thing we probably bicker the most about is plans is deeply unserious.
Sorry as I am less well read, but aren’t they so wrong to say the vanguard party is a class? If you are proletarian, you are more then welcome to join…
Classes are defined by their relations to the means of productions and to other classes, the party’s members aren’t a different class than the proletariat because they have the same relations to the means of productions as the proletariat.
The party went tremendous efforts to promote itself among the population and there were more members of the communist party in the USSR than members of any party anywhere else on earth AFAIK (edit: except probably China later).
Simultaneously, the party, especially in the pre-Khruschchov era, subjected itself to a lot of so-called “purges” (chitska) in which it would rid itself of people perceived as bureaucrats and people who were in just for personal benefit instead of ideology and praxis. To remain in the party during one such purge, many people were requested to give account of their contributions to the party and society, the time they volunteered in which actions, etc.
This is what I thought. I just wish I was better at de-bunking the “anti-tankie” folks who claim that USSR was authoritarian despite being a dictatorship of the proletariat. Anarchists that just think the state will dissolve magically without the people taking it back
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Ha yes! The “tankie” are the ones blaming individuals instead of the system, everyone knows that. It’s so funny how other instances are just making shit up about us. I guess they must have run out of things we actually said that they can misinterpret and fearmonger about so now they have to manufacture artificial ones.
“Liberal communism”. Nothing to add there, really.
You see this kids? This is how you’ll end up if you don’t read theory.
Marxism-Leninism literally does have plans for this…it’s called a vanguard party and it’s how the Bolsheviks took over Russia away from the czars. Mao came along and said “Eh I don’t think we need an explicitly vanguard party, the peasants are pissed off enough already,” and that’s how the CPC took control of China.
I’ve never read more than a few snippets of Mao or Lenin and I know this. The whole Marxism/Leninism/Maoism dichotomy is based on how these different developments in socialist thinking led to plans for revolution. Saying “They never have any plans!” when the thing we probably bicker the most about is plans is deeply unserious.
I love how these clowns have collectively decided that actually communists aren’t communists. It’s amazing.
Sorry as I am less well read, but aren’t they so wrong to say the vanguard party is a class? If you are proletarian, you are more then welcome to join…
Classes are defined by their relations to the means of productions and to other classes, the party’s members aren’t a different class than the proletariat because they have the same relations to the means of productions as the proletariat.
Was anyone free to join the Bolsheviks, as long as they could become well enough educated?
I think so, yes. @yogthos would know more about that.
The party went tremendous efforts to promote itself among the population and there were more members of the communist party in the USSR than members of any party anywhere else on earth AFAIK (edit: except probably China later).
Simultaneously, the party, especially in the pre-Khruschchov era, subjected itself to a lot of so-called “purges” (chitska) in which it would rid itself of people perceived as bureaucrats and people who were in just for personal benefit instead of ideology and praxis. To remain in the party during one such purge, many people were requested to give account of their contributions to the party and society, the time they volunteered in which actions, etc.
This is what I thought. I just wish I was better at de-bunking the “anti-tankie” folks who claim that USSR was authoritarian despite being a dictatorship of the proletariat. Anarchists that just think the state will dissolve magically without the people taking it back
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