• AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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    Luckily there’s still many other important things such as food safety, workplace safety, consumer protection… um…

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      Add disaster management and informing people about disease outbreaks ans product recalls! America is so great about… um.

  • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 hours ago

    Paid sick leave exists in some US states, for example vermont. It’s not a lot but it’s better than nothing.

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    Free college is no longer a thing here in the UK. But our student loan terms are bloody generous.

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    We used to have free college, but college students protested things which pissed off Reagan so he campaigned against it

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    Would you look at that, Brazil has all of those! The problem with UHC is that right wing politicians have been doing everything in their power to dismantle it ever since its inception.

    The previous govt (fucking bozo) was also keen on “isn’t it better to have some work and no rights, rather than having rights and no work?”

    Public universities, while being free, often can only be attended by the well off, since class times might be all over the week (Monday morning, Tuesday afternoon, Wednesday morning AND night), fucking anyone that needs to work to sustain themselves.

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    The world isn’t this black and white, so you can’t just compare things at a basic level like this

    For example the Netherlands has intuition fee’s for universities. It’s about 2500 euro per student per year. I’d much rather have it free, but it’s still nothing compared to the 50K or 100K some people pay for an American University

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      Similar in Canada. It may not be free, but it’s ridiculously cheap compared to what the US deals with and we still have great financial assistance for those who can’t afford that.

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      And the UK for that matter. You only get free education up to A Levels (18 years old).

      If you want a degree then you pay for it.

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        Hey, leave Scotland out of this. We get tuition fees paid plus a student loan which you can just sort of never pay back 👌

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      Exactly. Germany also has free Universities but there are mandatory charges you have to pay in order to study. Its just not a university fee but a fee for a mandatory university service (still mutch lower than other countries with university fees).

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    Indeed, but nothing is for free and we pay for the so-called “free” services through taxes. Yes, the 1st Class EU members are way ahead of the piss poor US labor laws and public services. Thanks to the MAGAts, working conditions will become 3rd World.

    One matter, the blue-collar apprenticeship system in Germany is outstanding and the only organization that comes close are the trade unions in the USA, but it depends on which local you are in. Some are superb and some are WTF.

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      I love the way Germany has trade unions that are trade wide rather than smaller unions. I wish we could import that to America.

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      Yes healthcare is paid for via taxes so it isn’t strictly speaking isn’t free, but it also isn’t the same as paying for health insurance. For one thing you don’t pay more money just because you’ve got a Pre-Existing medical condition. In a way everyone pays less because all of the people that would otherwise pay for private healthcare, still pay the taxes, so everyone else is being subsidized by the rich, who in the US wouldn’t contribute to anyone else’s healthcare.

      I don’t think anyone ends up paying more in taxes than they would if we operated under the US private health care system.

      So while your point is strictly speaking true, it’s also a bit pedantic.

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        No disrespect to the guy individually but “it’s not free, it’s paid for by taxes” is mentioned every single time when this conversation comes up.

        Everybody knows. Nobody actually thinks these these things appear out of thin air. We all know how taxes pay for public services and employment rights.

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    Countries with labour laws and free education: “Learn and work, work and learn!”

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    Well, there’s one country I’m not moving to. It amuzes me that a first world country, hell, a global superpower, doesn’t have any of that stuff, it would benefit everyone, especially free healthcare because you wouldn’t have to worry about going bankrupt just to get that surgery you know you need. It doesn’t even have to be free, just making it affordable for everyone is already a huge step.

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      We’re a first world country for the top 10% of the population and a third world country for the bottom 90%.

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      America isn’t a first world country. It favors the rich in the same way as most African and Central Asian nations.

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        The first/second/third world designation is a cold war relic. America is first world by definition, but we probably should have ditched the whole framework after the Berlin Wall fell.

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          I agree that it should no longer be used in a modern context. It’s like calling Russia the USSR; people usually know what you mean, but it doesn’t make sense, and when talking about specifically American geopolitics, it’s easy to misunderstand what is meant if you are older than 35.

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        Yet it still considers itself a global superpower with the biggest economy in the world (or one of the biggest, I can’t even remember). To me, it’s just laughable that they made it to this point.

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      It amuzes me that a first world country, hell, a global superpower, doesn’t have any of that stuff

      They imported workers from countries that have free education.

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      FYI, many Americans do have many of these things, they just aren’t mandated or evenly distributed to all citizens.

      It’s still fucked, though.

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    Australia could have been included here, the only missing one is free ‘college’ which is known as University here.

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      The UK has both colleges and universities. Colleges are usually seen as “lesser”, usually with vocational style courses rather than purely academic learning.

      In England, college is free but university is not. In Scotland it’s all free up to a certain age. I’m not sure about Wales and Northern Ireland.

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        Colleges ARE lesser, are they not? They provide a lower level of qualification and are usually attended at a younger age. I’ve been out of education for a while so happy to be corrected.

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          In a lot of Europe, you graduate from high school, and you go either to college or university at the same age. Either or.

          There are other differences as well, for example to get a PhD you have to get a masters first, but then PhDs are almost all paid. Usually not well paid, but paid nonetheless.

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        Fair enough, in Australia we generally call those lesser institutions ‘TAFE’.

        Though as a peculiarity the Australian Capital Territory calls year 11 and 12 education college, in a break from the rest of the country.

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    Well, at least for white working families. Middle easterners are under constant attack in those countries.

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    I get free healthcare, Free College, paid time off, paid sick leave, paid paternity leave… Lives in USA. But I’m employed, so I get those things.

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        But the catch is that I was in the army. And did a tour in Afghanistan. 100% disabled as well.

        If I served my country and got all 5 of those things, why can’t the USA make it universal?

        No profit in that.

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              Hopefully like my friend who served in the marines in afghanistan you came out leftist.

              Your comment is kind.

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                I don’t like our president any more than his predecessor. Nor the replacement. Our government failed us.

                I served under Bush Jr, and then he extended our tour. So I’ve been mad at him ever since, along with his other decisions.

                Did I come out leftist? I went in right leaning and came out more centrist.

                To be honest.

                Glad your friend came back alive. Afghanistan sucked.

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              It’s the truth. If you want “free” anything as an American you have to serve the imperial interests of the capitalists who own the US government and philander the rest of the world.