• SevenSkalls [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Everything you hear on Rednote is propaganda! Plug your ears and cover your eyes! Don’t listen to it!

    I know it was a Chinese app for a Chinese audience and that it’s essentially been invaded by a bunch of Americans recently, but i swear everyone on there is just bots pretending they’re normal people purely to propagandize Americans.

    USAians are the most self-centered people in the world 🙄

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      China created RedNote and filled it with bots who were just interacting with each other for years just on the off chance that Westerners might someday discover it, just like they did with Hexbear.

      • As someone who never used tiktok and would like to avoid its brainrot, is there a way to make rednote a bit less like what I imagine tiktok to be? Every topic you mentioned speaks to me, but my attention span is already getting ruined and I don’t want to put oil on the fire.

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          Something I wanna add: Rednote’s “home” page is not an infinite scroll like on TT, but a list of videos and image posts based on your algorithm, which makes me scroll it less mindlessly because I’m kinda choosing which videos to watch instead of just being served them.

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          Its inherently better. The algorithm isn’t so virality focused, this is what I have heard anyway and it feels true. The content isn’t affected by the “attention economy” that plagues western social media. The app itself also just has better features than tiktok.

          I can’t say what it was like before and how many Americans will stick around, but they just added am auto translate feature so its much easier to interact and comment and not need to mess with copy and pasting to another translation app.

          If you aren’t afraid of the big terrible scary CCP undermining national security I would recommend checking it out. I also think you don’t need an account to browse it on desktop

          Its just my personal experience but I find myself scrolling slower and spending more time on longer form videos. At the very least it is refreshing for my ADHD brain to not be assaulted by 50% ads and 40% pointless memes that tiktok has

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          I never used tiktok much either, but I’ve been really enjoying rednote so far. As for attention span worries, it might be hit or miss for you, depending on what worries you. Much like tiktok, rednote is also mostly scrolling through lots of short videos, so that part is the same. But I’ve found the algorithm to be surprisingly good at giving you what you want. My feed is mainly lots of cooking videos, cat/dog videos, cute little cartoon frogs, badass communist imagery, outdoor/travel stuff, etc. I find it much more wholesome and less brainrotty/doomscrolly than tiktok. Every time I went on tiktok I felt like it only showed me people sitting in their car ranting and clips of right wing youtube assholes. I’ve seen almost none of that garbage on rednote.

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      See also: When Hexbear federated with lemmy. A forum that was just doing their own thing for years was secretly bots and trolls just keeping up appearances to trick The Most Important People In The World.

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    “hostile foreign government” as opposed to the local government which is very cool and gets along great with you. FFS your own government is 40x more hostile to you than China.

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    I went to check out that thread, and holy shit do I fucking hate chauvinistic Western anti-China liberals AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    And hostile to whom? As a European, I’m subjected to the same bullshit from the US.

    maybe-later-honey The environment, for one.

    Several lawmakers said publicly last summer you can search it, pro-Palestinian content was WHY tiktok was being banned — the threat to them is people waking up from WITHIN, and they’re counting on the average U.S. audience’s Sinophobia for people to believe chinas the reason.

    maybe-later-honey Lmfao yes it’s a threat when an algo run by china can affect public opinion in the US, yes.

    Yep. Saw quite a few “life as an office worker in china” type videos and more than one showed 2 hour lunch breaks. Not to mention the grocery hauls, explanation about how they’re not paying property tax and their home is theirs, cheap luxury cars that far outmatched western ones, etc. Us westerners are learning what life could be like if govt cared about its people.

    maybe-later-honey you fell for the chinese propaganda, hook line and sinker if you think that’s at all representative of the average chinese worker. Please think for yourself, and don’t let a chinese propaganda app do it for you

    I think you’d be surprised about how much the user base of red note would agree with this sub. I regularly see Chinese netizen ask why Americans put up with such a broken system, why we haven’t revolted. We have been fed a lot of propaganda about the people of China.

    maybe-later-honey They want you to revolt not because we are in solidarity with you, but because it would be easier to beat your ass should one day come to it… not saying that you shouldn’t revolt, but how naive of you to think we actually support you or something lol

    I guess being Chinese doesn’t prevent you from saying stupid shit

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      The environment, for one.

      THE BLOODY US GOVERNMENT IS AT LEAST 100 TIMES MORE HOSTILE TO THE ENVIRONMENT THAN CHINA, WHO THE FUCK LET OIL COMPANIES GET AWAY WITH PUSHING CLIMATE CHANGE DENIAL PROPAGANDA FOR DECADES?!?!? CHINA IS ONE OF THE WORLD’S LARGEST PRODUCERS OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND SOLAR TECH WHILE THE STUPID FUCKING COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE US JUST PULLED OUT OF THE PARIS CLIMATE AGREEMENT. GOD FUCKING DAMN IT.

      matt-jokerfied

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        Every estimate of the environmental damage of the oil and gas industry in America has been incredibly underestimating of stray emissions, wells that have broken free of their caps, oil leaks, water contamination, etc.

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      Please think for yourself, and don’t let a chinese propaganda app do it for you

      I just want to rub their nose in this until they understand the irony here

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      Lmfao yes it’s a threat when an algo run by china can affect public opinion in the US, yes.

      The US or affiliated tech companies would never.

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      They want you to revolt not because we are in solidarity with you, but because it would be easier to beat your ass should one day come to it… not saying that you shouldn’t revolt

      THE EBIL GOMMINISTS WANT YOU TO DO THE THING THAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING ANYWAY OUT OF A PERFIDIOUS YEN FOR YOUR DESTRUCTION

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      The worst part is that it is representative of the average Chinese worker. There are places where people work long hours and stay in company housing, but that is not at all indicative of the majority of the people. And even then, the people who do those jobs are doing them temporarily (an average of 2-3 years) so they can then afford not to, once they have purchased a home in a smaller city (which is still incredibly modern by U.S. standards). Hell some are doing it to purchase second or third homes as investment properties (which is a bad idea, but hey, at least they can).

      You know why we know this? Outside of anecdotal and even verifiable statistical evidence that this is the case, it is because polling shows overwhelming approval for their government.

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      That last one hurt my brain so bad I had to step in. I’m the one who brought up his posting history where he defends Isntrael.

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      I guess being Chinese doesn’t prevent you from saying stupid shit

      Most of the Chinese on xhs that I have seen discussion racism they experience when traveling or being students in the west have been pointing this out

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    Hostile foreign government

    Even if the worst predictions about China are true, I can’t see what harm China is gonna do to the average redditor in Burgerland.

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    it’s amazing how even when they are acknowledging hatred of their own country they still fall for the propoganda that China is evil and must hate them. ahahahaha.

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    This is just living in a bubble. I guess that’s how libs plan to deal with another 4 years of Trump. Brunch 2.0, just shut the windows and doors, batten down the hatches, and pretend everything is fine. Nothing to see here.