I know there was some schism and moving of instances, but beyond that I can’t deduce what happened/is happening.

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    That’s not what they were saying when Ada said neopronouns aren’t trolling. This thing they’re saying now seems like a PR line to avoid getting the community outright taken by Ada.

    At present, drag is banned from 196 for advocating violence against Nazis, but at the time, the ban was for “trolling” after making several posts in support of neopronouns.

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      Neopronouns aren’t trolling. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone saying otherwise. I believe YOU are though. There’s a wake of drama behind you miles long.

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        Would, uh, would you say Martin Luther King Junior caused a lot of “drama”? How about Anne Frank? Rosa Parks? Mahatma Gandhi? Dora Richter? Would you call those people “drama llamas” or “trolls” because they were divisive? Because people chose to have a lot of opinions about them? Is that your criteria for deciding if someone is a bad person, that others react strongly to their existence?

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          How fucking insulting you are to even think to compare yourself to them. This is absolutely evidence you’re here in bad faith to troll.

          You’re a troll because you fit the descriptor definition, and you create unnecessary drama everywhere you go. Again, MODLOGS.

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            You sure seem about as wrongheaded as the Nazis and segregationists after you said “it wasn’t about pronouns” while misgendering a trans person as part of your manufactured drama. That’s a choice you made, to he/him a nonbinary person for absolutely no reason while lying about your motivation. You don’t get to have an opinion on any of this after that stunt.

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              Man… it is always entertaining to see the extreme limit of mental gymnastics one needs to preform in order to land the jumps you attempt.

              You have compared yourself to MLK, and Anne Frank, and now I’m a Nazi because refuse to play along with your trolling?

              Astounding.

              And not only that, but you seem to have now revoked my right to have an opinion? Hmmm…. That sounds vaguely like you’re trying to tell me I’m not allowed to choose my own perception.

              Pot meet…. “drag”

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                and now I’m a Nazi

                100%

                Dragon Rider isn’t a troll. Everything they’ve argued in favor of is a genuinely held belief of theirs

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                  Okay, well… according to you, I can’t be a nazi because everything I’ve argued in favor of is a genuinely held belief of mine.

                  So if drag is not a troll, then I am not a Nazi.

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                    I said They weren’t a troll because they genuinely believed what they believe. Those were two entirely separate statements, and two entirely different bad things to be. Please do listen to people when they’re talking to you, if nothing else than to avoid simple blunders like this

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                  When backed into a corner, a troll’s last ditch effort to save face is to tell people to just block them. But this only serves to remove any opposition they face- leaving them free and clear to continue unobstructed.

                  Normally, a person not wanting to have the discussion- this being YOU, would be the person to issue a block.

                  So, no. I’m not going to block you. I’d like to be able to see the drama you’re causing, and react to it along with those that have to suffer you as I do.

                  You’re free to block me though. But we both know you never will. You need to see the results of your trolling. And blocking people flies in the face of that need, doesn’t it?

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                    Drag needs to see if you misgender drag again so drag can report it. You have no such need. Nobody has used violence to harm you. You can just go. Stop farming drama, stop misgendering trans people. It’s easy.