• grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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    19 hours ago

    That’s kind of the cruelty of capitalism. You can coerce people do unsafe or unpleasant things, but it gets framed as a favour because hey they’re getting paid.

    Whereas if the person you were paying was truly comfortable and didn’t need money for survival, there is a chance that they would forego working on that kind of night.

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      18 hours ago

      I’ll say no if I need to, there are always other jobs. They’re renting your time not your life, you can tell them no.

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        There are other jobs, but the market isn’t homogeneous or liquid. The jobs available to a specific person may not pay enough, be stable enough, may not be close enough, or may not like the person for bullshit reasons or expect some specific qualifications.

        I can just get another job, because I know all these things are similar for me at other businesses in my industry.

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        15 hours ago

        That’s a nice thought but it’s sadly not how reality works for many people who are living paycheck to paycheck.

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        18 hours ago

        A delivery driver is already towards the bottom of the job ladder

        Not many can say “I can be without work for a week or two while I look for a better/safer job”

        Can they say no? Yes, can they really say no? Probably not

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          Well they’d be in just as bad a situation if no one ordered at all for a week. Theyre without income either way. I honestly think its better for doordash and ubereats drivers if people still order in poor weather. Pizza places on the other hand where the driver may at least be making some sort of flat rate, they may just prefer to sit there all shift with no orders.

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            9 hours ago

            They would only be in a bad situation because minimum wage is low and they will be missing tips.

            A pizza driver in the US is guaranteed at least minimum wage while they are on the clock.

            To my knowledge, Uber style delivery services are not going to fire you for not working a night.

            The typical pizza place has managers that will force workers to work. If you are forced to work and someone calls in a pizza, you are forced to deliver.

            Im sure there are people out there that have 4x4s and enjoy the extra tips in the hazardous conditions.

            But you could also be risking some poor soul life that’s being forced to deliver in their Honda civic.

            Those people can’t say no to their managers in fear of being fired. It’s what the whole comment was about. They can’t quit, fired could be worse.

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              Thats literally what i said, if youre gonna order, order from ubereats or doordash where they can refuse to take orders, so if someone is working they must be really desperate and unable to go without the income. At least theyre making the choice for themselves. Dont order from a pizza place because although they might still have to work, they’ll at least be making a wage if theres no orders and just get to kick back. I personally barely order delivery anyway.