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edit: As I’m seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms. It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board. FAQ: Why? That’s a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada’s excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances. How does this work? Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed. What about the posts? Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world’s federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won’t be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled. As for the posts on lemmy.world’s 196, we’re leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I’LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM. Once again, here’s the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: !196@lemmy.world)

  • kux@lemm.ee
    17·
    4 hours ago

    might be a bit borderline but probably fine, although it seems more like flouncing off than power tripping. would need more of a writeup to be drama/lore

    someone on hexbear has posted blahaj admin ada’s message to the 196 mod team, relevant quote:

    I have asked 196 for years now to have an active blahaj.zone mod so that someone can deal with the blahaj.zone reports that constantly come through and build up, but still, the best we got were mods with alt accounts that get checked every couple of days, leaving me to deal with the build up of reports on 196. Sometimes they would hang around there for days while I waited for a 196 mod to log in and look at them. And because you don’t like the way I deal with them, you drag me over the coals for my moderation style, despite no one from 196 stepping up to deal with those reports on a regular basis.

    full text here https://lemm.ee/post/52977833/17597222

    CLM

    • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
      5·
      3 hours ago

      That throws the whole thing into a little bit of a new light. Moving to the community where it’ll be actively moderated makes quite a bit of sense to me, even if that means lemmy.world.

      Then again, supposedly working moderation for moderators on remote instances is just around the corner with the next release. I don’t know if that is accurate, but this might have been a problem that was solvable if they were willing to wait a couple of months.

      • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
        2·
        1 hour ago

        On the other hand, that won’t come out until 0.19.20 reportedly, at the earliest, while iirc it’s been a year since Lemmy.World upgraded to 0.19.3, and were planning on doing an upgrade in January/February. So it could be another full year after the Fediverse gets it but before it appears on Lemmy.World? 😜

        More to the point though, how do moderators of one of the most active and perhaps controversial communities across all of Lemmy not bother to check in for two days most of the time? The way this post words things, Ada is the one being abused here, even as they are being thrown under the bus for not doing all of the moderation work to their satisfaction. If I were Ada, I’d be somewhat happy to see them go (though sad for the actual users who get caught up in all this drama).

        • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
          2·
          54 minutes ago

          Yeah, I thought it was planned for 0.20.

          I think lemmy.world is the slowest to upgrade of all the instances. I’m not sure which party in the moderation will need to upgrade in order to make the thing work, but you might well be right that it won’t work for lemmy.world users until lemmy.world upgrades, which would mean maybe waiting six months to a year or so before things are actually working. Yet another reason not to mess around with lemmy.world, maybe.

          And I completely agree with your assessment. It sounds to me, reading between the lines, like they were shamelessly abusing Ada’s volunteerism until it reached its breaking point, and then at that point instead of owning up to the real reasons why they need to move, they’re framing it as “moderatorial and ideologial differences” and “We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this.” and similar responsibility-avoidant bollocks.

          Maybe I’m absolutely wrong about that, it’s hard to tell looking in from the outside from a single message. But that’s my initial read on the situation if I had to take a guess about it.

      • example@reddthat.com
        4·
        2 hours ago

        moderation is working, generally. it’s the lack of full report federation that is the primary issue currently.

        • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
          4·
          2 hours ago

          So as long as you don’t need to see any of the reports, you can moderate. Got it. That’s exactly what I would describe as working, “generally.”