Context: I am not a fridgy, I work with electronics. I would love to answer my question by tearing open a dozen different aircon units, but I’m sorely lacking in that department.

Question: Are there some optional components or fancier materials that are simply too expensive to use in the lower end aircons; but are used in the higher efficiency expensive units? The range of COP/EER I see advertised is wild, from 2 to 6 or so.

I already vaguely understand that these things help efficiency:

  • Bigger indoor & outdoor coils with more metal in them (working fluids get returned hotter/colder gives better carnot efficiency)
  • Operating compressor at its optimal power level (I believe they have an efficiency vs power curve with a single peak, so it’s better to use a bigger compressor if you need more power output)
  • Inverter control instead of on/off control (most situations, but technically some use cases will have them on par)
  • Choice of refrigerant (but that seems to be controlled in my market, I have not seen many options)

Is there anything else they change? Or is that most of the difference?

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    18 hours ago

    In addition to advances in fin design and compressor and motor efficiency and materials, there’s also the option to use things like heat pumps instead of traditional compressor based ac systems. They tend to be more efficient or for the same size to produce more cold air for the same electricity.

    Due to the fact that a heat pump moves heat and it is not a unidirectional process like a traditional compressor system is, heat pump air conditioning systems can be both heaters and coolers at about the same electrical efficiency.

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      18 hours ago

      heat pumps instead of traditional compressor based ac systems

      Heat pumps are compressor based systems. They are the same technology.

      In addition to advances in fin design and compressor and motor efficiency and materials

      This reads lot like an answer from an LLM. Did you use one? My apologies if not, but you sound very suspicious.

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        15 hours ago

        No I didn’t use an llm and yes a heat pump does use a condenser or a compressor but it’s not the same as a Freon based compressor system.

        Yes, heat pumps use probably a Freon based refrigerant but they operate in a slightly different manner.

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      18 hours ago

      How is being a heatpump (a reversible air conditioner) automatically more efficient?

      If you have 2 units using identical design, but only add a reversing valve, I don’t see how the heat pump version would be any more efficient at cooling.