From your, and many rational being’s perspective, there being a felon for president is a bad thing. You trust the judicial system, you think they found and convicted rightly, so now we have a bad man in charge.
From the other perspective, the majority voting perspective, the judicial system has been usurped and politically weaponized, the trial was a sham and the conviction false. He’s not a felon, just an unjustly labeled political martyr. Or maybe even a felon is better than a woman, or, gasp, a colored woman! The racism and misogyny never died, just sat in the back until it was allowed to speak again.
Why do they think this? Well, why do you think opposite? Different upbringing, education, social media exposure, less lead in you/your parents?
I agree, the president should be the best we can get, but infortunately we don’t elect people to be good at the job. The nature of elections selects the person who is best at elections at that moment. Sometimes that person happens to be really competent but that seems to be the exception and not the rule.
I’d like to think this is a problem with American voting specifically, or maybe first past the post election systems, but I worry that this is the trend of democracy as a whole. It seems like all democracy is sliding that direction, and I can’t think of many safeguards in place to resist it.
I sat with it for a moment, and I think parliamentary systems do seem more resilient since they require experts to be appointed or hired to do the real work, while the elected officials are steering the general direction. That falls apart of course when the appointed experts are selected for reasons that have nothing to do with expertise.
I don’t know what a solution to this is, and I think that is by design too, though it may just be the way the human brain works, I don’t know. It’s very hard to imagine new ways of doing things that are very different, and it’s even harder to see a clear path to that different future. I’m hopeful because good people are working on it, but I’m worried because the problems are so titanic.
Trouble is, would you consider someone best if they have imperialist values? Socialist ones? Would they require a Ph.D? And no matter what you answer, someone will believe the opposite. Who gets to pick the best of the best? In the current system, supposedly the common people do.
And they picked Felump.
Sure, stats say he wasn’t actually super popular, but the voters that could have gone another way made their vote too by leaving the box empty and giving him no opposition. To paraphrase Rush, “if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice”. So whether by checking the box or not, the people spoke, and here we are.
But it’s a government system like any other, so like any other piece of it, the people in power ultimately decide what the people below get to have.
Public schools are being defunded and villainized by the powers that want them devalued and replaced with a different systems, where the rich can keep cash flowing through private schools the public gets their knowledge from what is approved by religion, with a preference on teaching the things that will improve dependence on and obedience to power.
The people in power are banning books, slashing budgets, using the already malleable to convince voters that teachers are the ones brainwashing their kids, that (public) education doesn’t work, so they can have another generation of under-educated malleable serfs.
Hopefully other countries can watch the US decay and learn from it, and keep systems like affordable and common healthcare and education available, so that at least some portion of humanity aren’t this gullible. The news is telling me about the attempts for this same crap to rise on other countries and I can only hope they hold strong.
I see that fight too. Teachers still working despite the issues. Paying out of their own pockets to keep the system limping along. Trying to pack the wound of under supported education.
But there’s only so much you can do when your opponent vastly outnumbers you, and in fact now has the heavyweight punch of government behind it.
“Knowledge” is still being shared. The problem is we are eroding the difference between correct and incorrect “knowledge”, and as things change we are losing the support of the government that used to help with that.
“Truth” is now an opinion. Is Ivermectin a drug with some specific uses that may have had a secondary affected improving health for some patients who also had parasites eating at them, so they got a bit better because the parasites were dead and the immune response could work harder on fighting COVID?
Or is the truth that it’s directly a cure for COVID, cancer, and everything else, so buy it from the pet shop if you have to because “they” don’t want you to have it?
Different households will take different sides as truth. Different communities will take different sides as truth. And teach their young to make it their truth.
Government controlled education is a double edged sword. Right now we are upset that it is or could be used to push an agenda that we see as false, but we depend on a central authority to take in the advice of the educated and enforce true knowledge in the learning halls that educate our next generation.
It’s a matter of perspective.
From your, and many rational being’s perspective, there being a felon for president is a bad thing. You trust the judicial system, you think they found and convicted rightly, so now we have a bad man in charge.
From the other perspective, the majority voting perspective, the judicial system has been usurped and politically weaponized, the trial was a sham and the conviction false. He’s not a felon, just an unjustly labeled political martyr. Or maybe even a felon is better than a woman, or, gasp, a colored woman! The racism and misogyny never died, just sat in the back until it was allowed to speak again.
Why do they think this? Well, why do you think opposite? Different upbringing, education, social media exposure, less lead in you/your parents?
Clinton’s impeachment didn’t get the votes to go through and I still think that is wrong.
I don’t care who it is, but the President should be the best of the best of the country.
I agree, the president should be the best we can get, but infortunately we don’t elect people to be good at the job. The nature of elections selects the person who is best at elections at that moment. Sometimes that person happens to be really competent but that seems to be the exception and not the rule.
I’d like to think this is a problem with American voting specifically, or maybe first past the post election systems, but I worry that this is the trend of democracy as a whole. It seems like all democracy is sliding that direction, and I can’t think of many safeguards in place to resist it.
I sat with it for a moment, and I think parliamentary systems do seem more resilient since they require experts to be appointed or hired to do the real work, while the elected officials are steering the general direction. That falls apart of course when the appointed experts are selected for reasons that have nothing to do with expertise.
I don’t know what a solution to this is, and I think that is by design too, though it may just be the way the human brain works, I don’t know. It’s very hard to imagine new ways of doing things that are very different, and it’s even harder to see a clear path to that different future. I’m hopeful because good people are working on it, but I’m worried because the problems are so titanic.
Trouble is, would you consider someone best if they have imperialist values? Socialist ones? Would they require a Ph.D? And no matter what you answer, someone will believe the opposite. Who gets to pick the best of the best? In the current system, supposedly the common people do.
And they picked Felump.
Sure, stats say he wasn’t actually super popular, but the voters that could have gone another way made their vote too by leaving the box empty and giving him no opposition. To paraphrase Rush, “if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice”. So whether by checking the box or not, the people spoke, and here we are.
This just means we need a better educational system to help them understand what they’re watching and listening to on the media.
I agree.
But it’s a government system like any other, so like any other piece of it, the people in power ultimately decide what the people below get to have.
Public schools are being defunded and villainized by the powers that want them devalued and replaced with a different systems, where the rich can keep cash flowing through private schools the public gets their knowledge from what is approved by religion, with a preference on teaching the things that will improve dependence on and obedience to power.
The people in power are banning books, slashing budgets, using the already malleable to convince voters that teachers are the ones brainwashing their kids, that (public) education doesn’t work, so they can have another generation of under-educated malleable serfs.
Hopefully other countries can watch the US decay and learn from it, and keep systems like affordable and common healthcare and education available, so that at least some portion of humanity aren’t this gullible. The news is telling me about the attempts for this same crap to rise on other countries and I can only hope they hold strong.
But shouldn’t those that do know share the knowledge. This isn’t a lost cause. We’re in the middle of it and need to do something about it
I see that fight too. Teachers still working despite the issues. Paying out of their own pockets to keep the system limping along. Trying to pack the wound of under supported education.
But there’s only so much you can do when your opponent vastly outnumbers you, and in fact now has the heavyweight punch of government behind it.
“Knowledge” is still being shared. The problem is we are eroding the difference between correct and incorrect “knowledge”, and as things change we are losing the support of the government that used to help with that.
“Truth” is now an opinion. Is Ivermectin a drug with some specific uses that may have had a secondary affected improving health for some patients who also had parasites eating at them, so they got a bit better because the parasites were dead and the immune response could work harder on fighting COVID?
Or is the truth that it’s directly a cure for COVID, cancer, and everything else, so buy it from the pet shop if you have to because “they” don’t want you to have it?
Different households will take different sides as truth. Different communities will take different sides as truth. And teach their young to make it their truth.
Government controlled education is a double edged sword. Right now we are upset that it is or could be used to push an agenda that we see as false, but we depend on a central authority to take in the advice of the educated and enforce true knowledge in the learning halls that educate our next generation.
Thanks. I don’t have any more questions. Thank you, again.