• spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    Then we likely disagree on the cause of the obesity pandemic. In my view, obesity is a choice moderated by increasingly inactive lifestyles, high volumes of low quality food, and genetics (obviously not a choice).

    Add in contributing factors of affordability, general apathy towards nutrition, ready availability of food, grabbing food for all occasions (stress/joy/boredom), and corporations (esp. major corporations; food engineering for addictiveness and flavour, rampant marketing, and low quality offerings to bolster profits and scale).

    So in my view, still largely long-term lifestyle choices, with corporate influence definitely playing a part.

    But you seem to think differently, what do you believe I’m not seeing?

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      increasingly inactive lifestyle are caused by inaccessible cities, car reliance, and multiple-job wage slavery

      no one just up and decides “gee whilikers im going to start having an inactive lifestyle” one day lol

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        You make a great point - the built environment is absolutely a contributor!

        I would add attitude too. I know ppl who will not do a 40 minute walk, even if it’s a viable option. “Why not Uber, that’s sooo faaar” is still a choice haha

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            18 hours ago

            Haha I know!

            I’ve had some great conversations because of this and that there are many cultural/societal elements that I both do and don’t agree with. I’ve learned that others don’t share my opinion and I’m okay with that 😊 I hope you have a great 2025!

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      2 days ago

      you list it all, but i think the things you class as “contributing factors” are more significant, because it would explain the numbers better. i just think that it’s statistically improbable that that many people would choose sedentary life. it doesn’t match with my perception of my surroundings.

      a parallel: if some people have better teeth then average, it is probably because they care about their teeth. but if the majority of a community has better teeth than the rest of the country, there’s probably something in the water.

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        That’s fair, I can see why. My surroundings have a higher rate of knowingly sedentary behavior/wild overcomsumption, which affects my bias. I like your analogy.

        I still think personal autonomy has an impact. I’m a food nerd and in my experience the average person does a terrible job of assessing energy in (ooh donut) versus energy out (one calorie is harder to burn than ppl like to admit). Hell, it took me 15 years to figure out.

        So maybe not a conscious choice of a sedentary life, as much as the lack of understanding or awareness of how that unintentional choice affects them (plus all the factors we’ve discussed).

        But this is just my two cents, I’m no pro lol thanks for digging into this with me 🙂