Summary
Key leaders of the “Abandon Harris” movement, which encouraged voters to oppose Kamala Harris due to U.S. support for Israel during the Gaza war, are now expressing unease about Trump’s incoming administration.
Many in the movement, including prominent Muslim leaders, voted for Trump hoping he would bring peace to the Middle East.
However, concerns are growing over his Cabinet picks, such as Mike Huckabee and Tulsi Gabbard, which some see as troubling for Muslim communities.
An impossible choice between…?
The persistent myth that both parties are equally bad is patently bullshit propaganda by those fostering that disengagement. Pretending that all the other issues don’t matter in the face of the decision between “not going to stop genocide” and “going to make it worse” is narrow-minded. Again, if someone thinks “I’m not going to vote for genocide” is a justification for “I’m not going to vote against the fascists”, they’re trying to show their virtue with respect to genocide, while not actually caring about anything else except that signalling of virtue. That’s the hypocrisy.
I cant agree. The utter lack of pressure on dem leadership to counterbalance AIPAC money is not how “democracy” is supposed to work, and by acting like we have no choice in these things we guarantee a continuance of that lack of choice forever. I’m not up for that.
Good chat, I dont think we are going to come together on this point, but I thank you for the civility and I hope we all come out of this somehow.
With respect to Israel? Sure.
With respect to international policy otherwise? No.
With respect to domestic policy? Hell no.
By focusing on one issue - a horrible issue, don’t get me wrong, but one this election wouldn’t influence - to the detriment of all others, you pretend that everything else doesn’t matter. Fuck transgender kids, fuck immigrants, fuck labor laws, fuck economic exploitation, fuck the Ukraine too while we’re at it, fuck everyone and everything, but at least you didn’t vote for one genocide supporter (but got the other, so you achieved nothing anyway and never were going to).
Instead of directing that frustration at a more precise channel like protests, pestering your representatives, more severe forms of activism specifically messaging your discontent about that one issue, you used the vaguest possible opportunity with the most side effects. The US democracy may be broken, mutilated and in dire need of a fundamental overhaul, but it still has some democratic elements. Pretending it doesn’t is disingenuous.
If that changed your view after all, then I’ll take back everything else I’m about to say, but if you genuinely think nothing but making a show of caring about Palestine matters, this is where my charity and civility ends.
You’re a transphobia, racism and christofascism enabler, and a hollow gesture of caring about Palestinian lives that was never going to do anything for those lives except put a bunch of other lives in jeopardy doesn’t weigh that up. In a word:
You’re a hypocrite.
Yes, yes, get it all out. There, there.
I dont vote for war criminals.
Its not required that you like it, but check your numbers-- if you want to ever win an election again you should understand it. I’ll never vote republican, but in extreme cases I wont vote dem either. Theres MANY dem voters like me. Your approval of this or your “charity” doesnt matter to me or anyone else on the left. Nor do I care about your accusations and childish name calling. My votes right here, come get it. or dont, and we can all suffer through trump and the next trump together.