honestly just depressing to read
also maybe give a cw for transphobia but idk I ain’t the hexbear police
Yeah pick mes always make me feel bummed out. I feel bad for them.
it’s just like, how tf can you type out “this clip is us having a normal conversation most women have had” and not see how this person you’re prostrating yourself for will use literally anything as an excuse to hate you?
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transitioned as minors, receive the benefits, never detransed thus showing it wasnt a problem, and then pull up the ladder and try to kill trans kids by capitulating to reactionary rhetoric via pickme shit
like jesus fucking christ grow a backbone you worms. you had your life handed to you on a platter, accepting parents, early transition, etc. so many people have to take their nose to a literal grindstone to feel comfortable in their bodies. in most countries only 5% of all parents say they will support their kid like this, let alone the number that actually do it. i have no respect for people that do not recognize how well off they are. and frankly, you never see centrist types like this in actual IRL trans spaces, it seems all the worms congregate online to gossip and bow to jk rowling and never try to help anyone
the whole hair thing is ridiculous too.
frankly, you never see centrist types like this in actual IRL trans spaces, it seems all the worms congregate online
I think the kind of attitudes you need towards transness require that you also can’t stand being around other trans people, usually. Forums work better for spitting out vitriolic shit lol
Really depressing to see members of oppressed groups thinking that they’ll get to be “one of the good ones” no matter how many times their oppressors stab them in the back.
Please work with me fascist, please, pretty please. Please listen to me and consider me the same as you. Please. I want to be part of your system. I’m one of the good ones. I want to exist and I want you to deny my existence. I can help you achieve eliminating me if you just boost my subscribers.
Brianna Wu can eat shit, but it’s funny seeing these fucking fascists trying to convince the hardliners that they’re so much more special than the other trans people to their other fascist peers that hate their existence. Same kind of grovelling you see from that other fascist, Blair White or the lame duck Dave Rubin. Dave is especially pathetic.
Speaking of Rubin I’m reminded of that segment where he’s talking to I think Ben Shabibo and Ben saying he wouldn’t attend his wedding. Just so pathetic and sad watching him try to square that with himself in real time
Do you think there’s some kind of denial or cognitive dissonance that allows them to ignore the fact that most of the people they associate with want them, or others like them dead? How do they live like that?
They just think that’s the best they can possibly get, and that hopefully they’ll be safe in the purges
Large sums of money
they hate themselves just as much
Loathing of sell-outs needs to re-enter the collective consciousness. (and the collective consciousness needs to be serious about it this time)
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i hate that i feel like i got proven right, but man there’s a reason why ‘dolls’ has always given me bad vibes and why I’ve hated seeing how popular the term has become in the community
why the fuck are we referring to ourselves with a term that already compromises to transphobes - no wonder people like this picked it up. It feels like an inherently reactionary term that’s two steps away from just saying the slur.
apologies to anyone here who uses it, but i don’t know if I’ll ever be comfortable with it and I hope the slang passes out of the language soon
I am the kind of person who uses the T-slur-that-this-website-won’t-let-me-say to refer to myself a lot, and hang out primarily with other trans women who are of the same mind when it comes to slur reclamation - and yeah, even I see ‘dolls’ as Bad Vibes.
I feel like it’s part of a weird cultural trend in recent years of transfems idealizing dependence. Imo, one can see this in the puppygirl thing, too, idk, it’s all always given me bad vibes.
I think that’s definitely a part of it - like, I personally don’t use the slur but I can at least see the angle there, and part of that is that the T-slur itself is still transgressive to say in society.
‘Dolls’ on the other hand feels like a way to take away any bite from existing by taking the first punch ourselves, and I see it so often go hand in hand with other transfem self-degradation that feels more like public self-shaming than actually reclaiming something. I definitely agree with the ‘dependence’ vibes, and I can see how it’s probably a reaction to the treatment of transfems in the general media, but it feels like a step backwards - like a section of us feels the need to ‘sell out’. I really dislike that it’s a thing, and that it gets so much play in the culture.
and I see it so often go hand in hand with other transfem self-degradation that feels more like public self-shaming than actually reclaiming something.
Do you have any examples of this to point to? I know “pics or it didn’t happen” is a loser reply and I don’t do it wholly from disbelief, but because it’s something I have never seen myself.
Some transfems like the archetype in misogynist media of ‘a guy that solves all your problems’. Of course, this can put you in a dangerous dependent situation where the guy holds all the power given the social discrimination of transfems. A male suitor can be nice about this but its still a lopsided power dynamic and given how often guys are shit… its not something to idolize and it should be something to be healthily skeptical of. You should always strive to be independent for your own security even if its unnecessary. The highly submissive nature of transfem memes and discourse could just be airing kinks out, but there is definitely something underlying all of that, maybe a generalized fear of being seen as dominant because ‘men are meant to be dominant’.
yeah I pretty much 100% agree with this even with this username
Yeah, but you also already registered “EstraDameWithBigGams” at the same time to be your eventual opsec cutover account
Pffft. Like I give half a shit about opsec. My opsec has been dogshit ever since logging into hexbear.net for the first time
Which is why you still use chapo.chat to sign in, right?/unbit what’s the difference now? it takes me to the same website, right?
(Yes, they both point to the same place.)
Brianna’s initial argument the the TERF is responding to is fucking dogshit anyway. You’re a woman if you feel like a woman and say you’re a woman. That’s it.
This is like doing “women be shoppin’” in reverse.
TERFS love recycling regressive low-tier second-wave “feminist” shit.
Shut up, shut up, shut the fuck up.
I fucking despise pick-mes. They deserve the bullet too. 
that is just, fucking shocking to me, that an actual trans woman wrote all that out.
‘weird’ yourself, bitch.
One life philosophy I’ve had for the past decade is that chuds are 100% wrong on everything, and don’t bother trying to woo them to your side, and don’t compromise with them as they won’t give anything back. I’ve yet to see a situation where this rule fails. (except for kids, but even that failing is exceedingly rare)
maybe i would stop short of execution but people like her and blaire etc should be exiled to a big boat with no internet connection they get food and board games and stuff but can never come back
and HRT i guess
Ocean, food, board games, hrt, and no internet just sounds like a good time.
It’s not punishing them, but preventing them from being a threat to society
aww damn, why did we have to go with the non punitive justice system…
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Is there a term for class traitors except for transfolk? Cause that’s what she is.
pickme or assimilator
Queersling?
oh that’s high art, i’m using that
But is assimilator necessarily a negative thing? Like my goal is basically to assimilate/go stealth, but I’m not going to lambast other trans people for not doing the same.
it’s a complicated topic and i would have to take time to really put my thoughts together on it. stealth/binary trans is a position that’s very alien to me so I want to choose my words carefully. i think once one isn’t adopting stealth for self hating/internalised transphobia/primitive accumulation reasons it’s totally valid, and I wouldn’t use the label for that person.
that said, I also strongly believe that being visibly queer is a daily act of praxis against cishet patriarchy and something to be encouraged. but I would never say it’s a prerequisite for being a trans comrade, obviously there are other ways of doing this type of praxis too.
assimilators to me are people who choose to erase and de-radicalise their transness (and queerness broadly), to neuter it and make it palatable to the cishets, in the simultaneous pursuit of essentially being a good capitalist cog or even a straight up owner-capitalist. that process can take on the quality of going stealth, or it can look more like what Wu is doing in the posted tweet. they are those who discard any notions of radicalism or queer liberation, of solidarity with other queers, and choose to just work within the system and accept the way things are, leveraging advantages like passing privilege to avail of better opportunities than those available to most trans folks (the “pulling up the ladder” being mentioned in this thread about Wu). it’s essentially a liberal type of queerness. it’s an abandoning of trans and queer solidarity.
just being stealth or binary trans alone of course doesn’t necessarily put anyone in that category. I’d like to clearly state that binary transness is no less radical than any other kind, assimilators are those who choose to push that qualitative change onto it. sorry it’s just a disorganised thought dump, hope I made some sense.
Assimilator as in, “I’ve assimilated, now I have the same opinions as those I’ve assimilated in with.”
Worm, assimilationist, outsider (80s trans/queer thing for a trans/queer person that refuses to be seen with people from the community), pickme, sell out
maybe the most repulsive type of person
This may be sadder than dead puppies 😭😭😭
