• anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 hours ago

    Don’t worry black rock has the money to snap up all your uninsurable hovels and will gladly rent them back to you…

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      6 hours ago

      this might be a dumb question, but aren’t landlords required to insure homes they rent out?

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        36 minutes ago

        This will certainly depend on where you live but my impression is that generally you only need to have it when you have a mortgage specifically because the banks require it as a way to protect themselves. If you pay cash nobody cares.

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      9 hours ago

      What’s the long term plan there?

      Buy for cash, rent until the next natural disaster destroys the building and… then what?

      Doesn’t the landbastard have to pay for the tenants to be in alternate accommodation until the original one is returned to a liveable state?

      I can’t see how that’s profitable either…

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        9 hours ago

        They also have the money to lobby state governments to get rid of protections in the states where they have a large presence.

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          8 hours ago

          Besides then they can turn around and sell some of that land that’s not underwater yet back to the government for “temporary” refugee resettlement tent cities

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    10 hours ago

    “Last fall, the Senate Budget Committee demanded the country’s largest insurance companies provide the number of nonrenewals by county and year. The result is a map that tracks the climate crisis in a new way.”

    …and then? That was a year ago.

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    10 hours ago

    i think the idea is to transfer all real estate to people who can afford to pay cash, so everyone else can rent from them

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    10 hours ago

    Well, some of the locations involved have simply become uninsurable. What do you expect that the insurance companies do? Pay for a brand new home every other year, just because it was burned down or blown away in a storm again? No commercial insurance ever could afford this.

    Just like US health insurance, where the private companies don’t take people with prior issues or handicaps. If you want them to be insured, you need a nationwide, mandatory insurance to spread the risk among many.

    And even with a nationalized insurance coverage, some people might be forced to pay more than others, for unsuitable home locations with home insurances or unhealthy behavior (alcohol, tobacco, or drug use) with health insurance.

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      some of the locations involved have simply become uninsurable. What do you expect that the insurance companies do

      In an ideal world, I’d like to see them use their power, influence and bankroll to push forward greater action to combat climate change.

      Surely there is an “enlightnend self-interest” arguement to be mage for them funding action that will reduce future claims payouts?

      Similar to insurers funding fire prevention activities, improvements in building codes, additional safety features in road design, etc.

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        That does not help as long as idiots build wooden sheds as “houses” right on the middle of woods that are known to burn down every few years. Common sense is rather rare with some people, and you cannot expect other people to pay for it via their insurance.

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      10 hours ago

      I have a lot more sympathy for the individual working class people who live in those places that have now lost their homes and livelihoods because capitalism and corporate oligarchy have dictated that profit is more important than the environment than I do for insurance companies.

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        While thats a gut reaction that many have but the issue is the "working class people " are the vast najoirty and are the enablers of these actions.

        If you live in a democracy you are vicariously liable for the action of the people who represent you. Democracy is a lot of work and I posit that it is, needing many hours a week. This isnt an easily soluble problem as its taken many decades to get here. People are so unwilling to step outside the orthodoxy so politcans are as well. As Michel Barnier said abiit climate change , we know what to do, we just haven’t figured out how to be re-eleted if we do.

        On this, I side with insurers as they literaly can’t insure then uninsurable under the current system but step outside of that, the insurance industry itself is a ponzi scheme, it’s one mega disaster away from complete bankruptcy, perhaps Geico aside.

        Like everything else we do, we’ll tweak at the edges and never solve this. Solutions are untenable, for example you really need mass abandonment of places like Miami to “solve” it and that would take decades even if you undertook such a task seriously and we arent even at the level of discussing what needs doing let alone doing it.

        We literally know Mimai etal will be unlivable in decades to come and yet… Its like having a tea party on a train track with no access to a train timetable, it can only end one way but exactly when is unknowable.

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        That depends. A lot of those houses were built in places where no house should ever been built. Not for reasons of insurance, but also for environmental reasons, too. Not everything is the fault of greed. Some home owners are simply too stupid. You cannot force the costs of those people on the other insurance customers who did not build a wooden house in the middle of a forest known to burn down regularly.