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      Find me a new car in 2024 that doesnt store every GPS coordinate you’ve driven at for eternity. Genuinely, I’d like to see the non-garbage option because my '04 is getting old.

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        If I buy a new car, I’m going to have to figure out how to lobotomise it. At the very least, you should be able to mess up or cage any transmitters.

        I have no idea if that’s possible without taking the whole thing apart, though.

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          As far as I am aware, most of them aren’t directly transmitting data back to the manufacturer, but the data is stored on the car so if you ever have it worked on the dealership can just pull that shit without consent. I could be wrong though, maybe there are cars now that are doing that. I do know that a a lot of cars are taking the iPhone route of having “encrypted” parts, where if one is missing or replaced, the car just won’t work.

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      Yep. Until you can’t find non-garbage products anymore because 95% of everyone else is dumb enough to fall for it.

      I think there’s a reasonable case to be made against buyer beware here, we need to ban this shit.

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        I was just making this point with a laissez faire capitalism coworker. Bro just cannot understand the invisible hand is very often wrong.

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          That’s funny to hear. I’d actually say this kind of thing that happens with electronics is unusual, and people do know what’s in their own best interest the vast majority of the time. Dunno if that puts me in the picture or not.

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            and people do know what’s in their own best interest the vast majority of the time.

            Is that true if the vast majority of people are either uninformed or apathetic?

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              Magical boxes aside, people understand and pay attention to things that are of direct personal interest to them. Transit schedules, typical prices of things in their area and so on. Which garbage bins to check if you’re really poor, how to avoid taxes if you’re really rich.

              So, I guess it wouldn’t be, but people actually aren’t stupid or apathetic (about their own life) in general.

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        For example, try buying a television in a retail store that doesn’t have “smart” features at all, just inputs, outputs, and a digital tuner.