A VEGAN influencer is feared to have died of starvation after attempting to live on a fruit only diet. Zhanna Samsonova, 39, previously told how she spent four years eating and drinking just fruitsā€¦

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      If she starved or died due to complications from her diet, if she wasnā€™t able to stave off an infection for example or recover properly from an illness that would not affect an otherwise healthy individual - I would say her diet or nutrition lifestyle is germane to the situation.

      I believe that being vegan is a perfectly valid lifestyle and dietary choice but also people should be aware of some of the pitfalls.

      Can you please elaborate why you feel that being vegan has nothing to do with it?

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          Wow. Are you going to be ok? Iā€™m not sure if youā€™re reading into my comment with some baggage.

          Youā€™re absolutely right about fruit based - I casually wrapped vegan and fruit based together without realizing that she was practicing an extreme diet and it wasnā€™t indicative of a vegan diet.

          I suppose Iā€™m not aware of how much grief you get from society or people to defend your choices.

          Iā€™ll try not to comment on vegan topics anymore and Iā€™m not sure what I said specifically to deserve such venom but Iā€™ll do my best to not come across as a moron I guess.

          I didnā€™t obfuscate facts from the article. I wasnā€™t attempting to summarize the article. I was asking how her diet doesnā€™t account for issues stemming from her diet. But I see now what you mean that her being vegan and eating only fruit are two different things. I guess reading it casually I wasnā€™t sensitive to what must be your plight.

          Hope you feel better.

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              Yes. I need to chill. Me. How much more face value can you get from the lede in the article? Maybe the title of the article I suppose. However as addressed by other comments the article in whole was probably in bad faith.

              You donā€™t need to defend your life. I hope you donā€™t approach every exchange as an opportunity to fight. There must be a better way to communicate without being combative with each other. Surely not every interaction needs to be conflict? I wasnā€™t attacking you or veganism. I donā€™t know you and please donā€™t think you know me. I didnā€™t think my comment was antagonizing. If I was thatā€™s entirely on me.

              My wife and I were considering how to alter our diet. Our friend is a vegan and we were talking about it with him. Iā€™ll stick to that. Iā€™ll try to not be a dense mother fucker and I hope you are open to people surprising you with happiness and joy. Or not. Doesnā€™t matter to me.

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                  I think it is. I think this applies to your life more than youā€™d like to probably admit. I hope that you find joy and bliss and realize that the people in your life care about you and you donā€™t need to defend who you are to anyone.

                  I donā€™t know you and wasnā€™t looking to fight with you and after you called me a dense motherfucker for being - in your eyes - willfully repugnant I still care enough about you to see someone hurting. So if a stranger on the internet can reach out to you and hopes with all his being that you find solace then maybe the world doesnā€™t suck. Soā€¦ yeah it is that deep. At least for me.

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        Because the overwhelming majority of vegans arenā€™t eating nothing but fruit? Come on dude you canā€™t actually be this dense.

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          Look Iā€™m sorry. I thought I had phrased my comment in a nonthreatening and inclusive way. But I guess you are right and Iā€™m a complete useless human moron.

          Iā€™ll not comment anymore then.

          Please see also my response to the other non toxic vegan person for clarification.

          It just occurred to me that this Vegan influencer was promoting a lifestyle that may be dangerous and we should discuss it but Iā€™m a moron so Iā€™ll go away.

          This is a case like not all gun owners suck only some gun owners suck.

          The article was unfair. Thatā€™s a good discussion topic. Vegans arenā€™t all fruit people. Thatā€™s also valid. The importance of diet and the impact on our earth - also valid and crucial. How I should behave as to not come across as a dense moron - Iā€™m not sure interesting to anyone else but Iā€™m willing to have a go if you both are.

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      She was a vegan promoting vegan diet online. How does thay have ntohing to do with being a vegan? what?!

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        Her mother Vera Samsonova said she had caught a ā€œcholera-like infectionā€ just hours before she was due to fly home.

        Zhannaā€™s official cause of death has not been released yet, however.

        The SUN: ā€œSHE DIED OF VEGANISM!ā€
        Lemming: ā€œHow does this story have nothing to do with her being vegan?!?!ā€

        I see weā€™re already at Reddit type levels of idiocy.

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          Letā€™s be honest, tho: you donā€™t know either as her cause of death has not been released. I agree, the other user jumped to conclusions, but you canā€™t say anything definitive as of now either.

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            I never claimed to know her cause of death. But between ā€œcholeraā€ and ā€œveganismā€ Iā€™d rather bet on the former.

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          So the story has nothing to do with veganism, is that the point your trying to make? Really unclear

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        Because not all vegans eat the same restricted diet she was on. And not all vegans are anotexic, vegans do eat enough.

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          But I guess this vegan did starve herself. I donā€™t even think the sun suggested all vegans diets are deadly.

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            If they put it like that in the title, I see it like they are strongly implying it. Of course, I might be misreading it.

            Also calling someone who eats only five different plants vegan does not sound really truthful to me either.

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        Any vegan with half a brain knows that you need more than just fruit to be healthy. Assuming her death by infection is a result of her diet (which is possible, but we donā€™t know that), she died of being an idiot, not a vegan.

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      Itā€™s the Sun, what do people expect other than incendiary content thatā€™s usually wrong? We should all take a leaf out of Liverpoolā€™s book and have nothing to do with it.

      For people who arenā€™t from the UK weā€™re kind of the other way around to America, our TV and radio news is generally pretty well-adjusted on the whole but our tabloid press is straight up infotainment and this has carried over into the internet era.