There’s an argument to be made that Biden only pushed that stuff through knowing it’d get blocked. Long time tactic by politicians to introduce big things to look good when they know it’ll fail, yet it’s rarely introduced during times when they had full control.
You mean that Heritage Foundation created Healthcare band-aid that was originally implemented by a Republican governor that bent over backwards to further enshrine for profit private insurers, like United Healthcare, in our perverse deathcare system where the primary issue was the profit motive making American Healthcare unsustainably expensive with the some of the poorest results in the developed world because greed?
That plan Obama instutituted after the people screamed “Please help us supposedly leftwing Obama from this for profit healthcare hellscape! Here have a super majority!”
👏Yeah, that worked a treat, Americans are really satisfied with their healthcare now.
Now go ahead and tell me about how they couldn’t whip Joe Manchin into shape so it’s all they could do, because there’s always an excuse. Decade after decade passes, and the people are told they just need to be more patient. Maybe they’ll decide to make an equitable economy and non-exploitative Healthcare in a few thousand years.
Good fucking grift, by both parties. Left and right since Reagan have been little more than a sideshow to distract from class occupation, class subjugation, and class slaughter for profit.
I vote blue out of the tiniest of harm reduction, not hope, because rainbow ribbons are preferable to kids in cages in this dystopia, but don’t kid yourself on their social issue bickering, they take the same orders from the same bribers on the economy.
We don’t get a vote that would cost the owners significant blood money. They own this fucking place, and all of us.
because rainbow ribbons are preferable to kids in cages in this dystopia
Btw, I’d just like to drop a friendly reminder that those camps with the kids in cages started under Obama, continued under Trump (duh), and continued under Biden and in fact ramped up, not down, and they’ll continue under trump again, I’m guessing, and whoever is after that too, so idk about the “preferable to,” seems more like “kids in rainbow painted cages.”
You write a lot of stuff that I don’t think is relevant here. I’ll just say that while the ACA was problematic (ie the public option was stripped out) it did meaningfully improve people’s lives.
Before the ACA pre existing conditions exemptions were a thing. If you find out that you have cancer you suddenly can not switch health insurance providers because they would say that your cancer was pre existing condition that would be excluded.
When your health insurance is tired to your job this results in literal work here or die of cancer entrapments.
That and things like mandatory mental health coverage are some of the things that improved peoples lives.
If you are too young to remember the situation with healthcare in the USA before the ACA that’s fine. But the ACA was a godsend for people. It’s not perfect but it undeniably helped the most vulnerable people.
What’s the problem you seem to have with gay rights here? Going out of your way to label that one party is supporting “rainbow ribbons” seems a little iffy considering all the trans people that are about to get systemically targeted by the right-wing that won an election basically on a smear campaign against us.
I’m saying rainbow ribbons don’t feed the homeless trans person dying in the gutter on the street.
I’m saying it’s a feel good thing that doesn’t materially help them or anyone that needs material help to continue to be alive. Oh, you’re starving to death? Well here, I’ll affirm your identity and not feed you.
How about giving those trans people universal Healthcare without private insurers denying their claims for profit? Nope. Here’s a rainbow ribbon though, because that won’t piss off my wealthy bribers.
Acknowledging anyone as they wish to be acknowledged is just basic decency and courtesy. Help your fucking Contituents in a material way is what I’m saying.
The fact that you frame “affirming your identity” as such a pathetic offering shows how little you think of LGBT folks in this context tbh.
Look, I get the anger, but keep your sentiment pointed in a way that doesn’t imply that gay people are the enemy soaking up valuable time and resources, or at least listen to us when we say we’re uncomfortable with you painting the symbols of our self-determination as cheap tokens to be eschewed from leftism if it wants to help people.
You might be privileged or young enough where you didn’t have to think about it but yah. You could literally sign up. The program was up and running. Many of my friends signed up and were happy and excited.
Only after it was up and running was it shut down. So yah. Biden did push it through. And yah. The Trump Supreme Court did stop it.
Because Justices will get old and die. Or they’ll retire and be replaced by someone younger. If it’s a Democrat in the White House, when that happens, we get to push the court leftward. If it’s a Republican, it goes rightward. Thomas and Alito retiring and being replaced by someone 30 years younger solidifies a right-wing majority for decades.
If the Democrat party is the best we can come up with barring some gasoline, they deserve to lie the same pile as the conservatives when the bodies start piling up.
They serve themselves, and on many occasions step aside to let fascism do its thing. Controlled opposition. You all just eat it up.
The spineless Democratic party. Let chaos reign.
Reminder. He pardoned his drug addict son, and you’re going to starve to death.
Exactly. “My nepo failson” was the issue he was willing to defy norms and undercut institutions for, feeding directly into Trumps line that the justice department has been politicized in prosecutions. He didn’t cross that line for;
Palestine
Student loan forgiveness
Budget negotiations/default
Supreme Court expansion
Judicial reform/integrity
Corporate greed excess leading to toxic rail spills or children working in slaughterhouses
The Republicans fight hard and dirty, playing from all angles and he slid backs and took it from them on multiple fronts. Sinema/Manchin holding up a vote? Trump has all his toadies marching to the same music, why can’t we? Tuberville playing obstruction in the Senate? It’s called the bully pulpit for a reason, whilst the president has no actual legislative power he can put a Senator under the microscope if he desired. Biden had no sustained fight in him
Lol except the dems literally gave the ACA and student debt forgiveness. Want more? Then give them more victories. They need all 3 house of representatives, Senate, and presidency to pass things and they’ve had that for only 6 years of the last 44 years.
The heritage foundation made the ACA for mitt Romney when he was governor of mass. It’s a right wing piece of legislation that was a handout to insurance companies and not universal healthcare.
Student debt? They forgave what, 1% of the absolute worst loans from schools that no longer exist and were committing fraud? Or are you talking about the forgiveness program that denies 99% of applicants?
Want more? Then give them more victories. They need all 3 house of representatives, Senate, and presidency to pass things and they’ve had that for only 6 years of the last 44 years.
And so what’s his name can’t water it down. *Lieberman.
Hmmmmmmmmmm how about trying? Nahhhhh you don’t wanna, you just want to say “Dems bad”.
Not to mention this gap in logic. If it was a real spoiler, what would have happened? It wouldn’t have passed at all. But it did, watered down. So not a spoiler, pretty much by definition. It’s a watering down, by definition.
And there wasn’t a spoiler at all for debt forgiveness. It was a packed court. So how about voting so that the GOP can’t pack the court? Another gap in logic.
And all the things that DID pass lol. Green energy, EVs, CHIPS, PACT, etc, etc, etc. No spoiler there. Another gap in logic.
Oh great, a health insurance bill that doesn’t do shit except charge insane premiums and not provide healthcare. And a handout to insurance companies. Great job democrats. Your easily fooled rubes of the blue MAGA persuasion think you’re the best thing since sliced bread…
Want more? Then give them more victories. They need all 3 house of representatives, Senate, and presidency to pass things and they’ve had that for only 6 years of the last 44 years.
And so what’s his name can’t water it down. *Lieberman.
Taking a look at your profile, yikes. I have no idea how you aren’t banned yet. Ciao.
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This is literally provably false. Biden, for all his faults, pushed through a student loan cancelation program.
It was blocked by the Trump controlled Supreme Court.
Elections matter. If Trump didn’t put 3 Supreme Court justices in place to block it people would be better off.
Don’t both sides this. It might make you feel smart but it results in harm.
There’s an argument to be made that Biden only pushed that stuff through knowing it’d get blocked. Long time tactic by politicians to introduce big things to look good when they know it’ll fail, yet it’s rarely introduced during times when they had full control.
I mean you can make an argument, but I think the burden of proof would be on you there.
The last time the Dems had control they passed the ACA.
Ooh the ACA!
You mean that Heritage Foundation created Healthcare band-aid that was originally implemented by a Republican governor that bent over backwards to further enshrine for profit private insurers, like United Healthcare, in our perverse deathcare system where the primary issue was the profit motive making American Healthcare unsustainably expensive with the some of the poorest results in the developed world because greed?
That plan Obama instutituted after the people screamed “Please help us supposedly leftwing Obama from this for profit healthcare hellscape! Here have a super majority!”
👏Yeah, that worked a treat, Americans are really satisfied with their healthcare now.
Now go ahead and tell me about how they couldn’t whip Joe Manchin into shape so it’s all they could do, because there’s always an excuse. Decade after decade passes, and the people are told they just need to be more patient. Maybe they’ll decide to make an equitable economy and non-exploitative Healthcare in a few thousand years.
Good fucking grift, by both parties. Left and right since Reagan have been little more than a sideshow to distract from class occupation, class subjugation, and class slaughter for profit.
I vote blue out of the tiniest of harm reduction, not hope, because rainbow ribbons are preferable to kids in cages in this dystopia, but don’t kid yourself on their social issue bickering, they take the same orders from the same bribers on the economy.
We don’t get a vote that would cost the owners significant blood money. They own this fucking place, and all of us.
Btw, I’d just like to drop a friendly reminder that those camps with the kids in cages started under Obama, continued under Trump (duh), and continued under Biden and in fact ramped up, not down, and they’ll continue under trump again, I’m guessing, and whoever is after that too, so idk about the “preferable to,” seems more like “kids in rainbow painted cages.”
Fair point.
You write a lot of stuff that I don’t think is relevant here. I’ll just say that while the ACA was problematic (ie the public option was stripped out) it did meaningfully improve people’s lives.
Before the ACA pre existing conditions exemptions were a thing. If you find out that you have cancer you suddenly can not switch health insurance providers because they would say that your cancer was pre existing condition that would be excluded.
When your health insurance is tired to your job this results in literal work here or die of cancer entrapments.
That and things like mandatory mental health coverage are some of the things that improved peoples lives.
If you are too young to remember the situation with healthcare in the USA before the ACA that’s fine. But the ACA was a godsend for people. It’s not perfect but it undeniably helped the most vulnerable people.
I’m sorry for using so many words.
Edit: they changed the above post to no longer have this quote.
It’s ok. And yah. I ended up changing it to be more relevant.
What’s the problem you seem to have with gay rights here? Going out of your way to label that one party is supporting “rainbow ribbons” seems a little iffy considering all the trans people that are about to get systemically targeted by the right-wing that won an election basically on a smear campaign against us.
I’m saying rainbow ribbons don’t feed the homeless trans person dying in the gutter on the street.
I’m saying it’s a feel good thing that doesn’t materially help them or anyone that needs material help to continue to be alive. Oh, you’re starving to death? Well here, I’ll affirm your identity and not feed you.
How about giving those trans people universal Healthcare without private insurers denying their claims for profit? Nope. Here’s a rainbow ribbon though, because that won’t piss off my wealthy bribers.
Acknowledging anyone as they wish to be acknowledged is just basic decency and courtesy. Help your fucking Contituents in a material way is what I’m saying.
The fact that you frame “affirming your identity” as such a pathetic offering shows how little you think of LGBT folks in this context tbh.
Look, I get the anger, but keep your sentiment pointed in a way that doesn’t imply that gay people are the enemy soaking up valuable time and resources, or at least listen to us when we say we’re uncomfortable with you painting the symbols of our self-determination as cheap tokens to be eschewed from leftism if it wants to help people.
The rainbows aren’t hurting anyone.
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lol.
You might be privileged or young enough where you didn’t have to think about it but yah. You could literally sign up. The program was up and running. Many of my friends signed up and were happy and excited.
Only after it was up and running was it shut down. So yah. Biden did push it through. And yah. The Trump Supreme Court did stop it.
And the end result is it didn’t happen, so how is he wrong that it won’t happen? Supreme Court hasn’t changed.
Because Justices will get old and die. Or they’ll retire and be replaced by someone younger. If it’s a Democrat in the White House, when that happens, we get to push the court leftward. If it’s a Republican, it goes rightward. Thomas and Alito retiring and being replaced by someone 30 years younger solidifies a right-wing majority for decades.
Hey check out this “both sides bad” centrism over here.
If the Democrat party is the best we can come up with barring some gasoline, they deserve to lie the same pile as the conservatives when the bodies start piling up.
They serve themselves, and on many occasions step aside to let fascism do its thing. Controlled opposition. You all just eat it up.
The spineless Democratic party. Let chaos reign.
Reminder. He pardoned his drug addict son, and you’re going to starve to death.
Exactly. “My nepo failson” was the issue he was willing to defy norms and undercut institutions for, feeding directly into Trumps line that the justice department has been politicized in prosecutions. He didn’t cross that line for;
The Republicans fight hard and dirty, playing from all angles and he slid backs and took it from them on multiple fronts. Sinema/Manchin holding up a vote? Trump has all his toadies marching to the same music, why can’t we? Tuberville playing obstruction in the Senate? It’s called the bully pulpit for a reason, whilst the president has no actual legislative power he can put a Senator under the microscope if he desired. Biden had no sustained fight in him
Lol except the dems literally gave the ACA and student debt forgiveness. Want more? Then give them more victories. They need all 3 house of representatives, Senate, and presidency to pass things and they’ve had that for only 6 years of the last 44 years.
The heritage foundation made the ACA for mitt Romney when he was governor of mass. It’s a right wing piece of legislation that was a handout to insurance companies and not universal healthcare.
Student debt? They forgave what, 1% of the absolute worst loans from schools that no longer exist and were committing fraud? Or are you talking about the forgiveness program that denies 99% of applicants?
And so what’s his name can’t water it down. *Lieberman.
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Hmmmmmmmmmm how about trying? Nahhhhh you don’t wanna, you just want to say “Dems bad”.
Not to mention this gap in logic. If it was a real spoiler, what would have happened? It wouldn’t have passed at all. But it did, watered down. So not a spoiler, pretty much by definition. It’s a watering down, by definition.
And there wasn’t a spoiler at all for debt forgiveness. It was a packed court. So how about voting so that the GOP can’t pack the court? Another gap in logic.
And all the things that DID pass lol. Green energy, EVs, CHIPS, PACT, etc, etc, etc. No spoiler there. Another gap in logic.
Oh great, a health insurance bill that doesn’t do shit except charge insane premiums and not provide healthcare. And a handout to insurance companies. Great job democrats. Your easily fooled rubes of the blue MAGA persuasion think you’re the best thing since sliced bread…
And we’re back to:
Taking a look at your profile, yikes. I have no idea how you aren’t banned yet. Ciao.
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Student loans forgiven: $175 Billion
Student loans that would have been forgiven without R fuckery: $430 Billion
Total federal student loan debt: $1.6 Trillion