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ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net to unions@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 5 months ago

How was this a surprise?

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How was this a surprise?

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    This is shit propaganda and most of you are eating it up. The union didn’t want this deal either. Harris and Biden also pledged to block it. Just yesterday, the union released a statement thanking Trump for reiterating his support:

    https://m.usw.org/news/media-center/releases/2024/usw-welcomes-trumps-opposition-to-u-s-steel-nippon-deal

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      Not exactly. Everything you said is true, but the post is also true. The union does support the blocking of this deal at the national level. But some local workers and officials support the deal.

      Trump upsets local union leaders by opposing U.S. Steel-Nippon deal https://triblive.com/news/politics-election/gut-punch-trump-upsets-local-union-leaders-by-opposing-us-steel-nippon-deal/

      Trump promised to block the sale of U.S. Steel. What does that mean for the Pittsburgh area? https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/trump-us-steel-sale-pittsburgh-impact/

      Steelworkers Feel ‘Gut Punch’ as Trump Plans to Block Takeover https://www.newsweek.com/pennsylvania-steelworkers-donald-trump-plans-block-us-steel-nippon-merger-1995300

      Trump vows to block U.S. Steel’s takeover by Japan’s Nippon Steel https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-to-block-us-steel-nippon-steel-acquisition/

      Trump vows to block Nippon Steel’s purchase of U.S. Steel https://finance-commerce.com/2024/12/trump-vows-to-block-nippon-steels-purchase-of-u-s-steel/

      Trump vows to block Japanese steelmaker from buying US Steel, pledges tax incentives and tariffs https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/trump-vows-block-japanese-steelmaker-buying-us-steel-116416311

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        No, this post isn’t true. It immediately claims “they fell for the con,” implying that these union members voted for Trump thinking he would back the deal and were betrayed. However, Trump, Biden, and Harris all have been consistently against this acquisition. Even four of your linked articles use the term “reiterated” when describing Trump’s stance. This is something he campaigned on. Nobody “fell for a con.” Sure, a few union members may have disagreed; however, if they thought any of the two-party candidates were going to allow this, they were delusional.

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          OK, I’ll admit “fell for the con” may be a bit strong bordering on false, I meant the fact that the general point of the post is true. These specific people were convinced Trump was going to do one thing and then got upset when he did the opposite. I think it’s equally too strong to call it outright propaganda. Your comment makes it sound as though the entire thing is fabricated.

          Zugai said he attended Trump rallies in Westmoreland County and Pittsburgh in the run-up to the election, even meeting with the president-elect at one, and helped organize steelworkers to attend.

          Trump did not mention any opposition to the U.S. Steel-Nippon deal at those rallies. Zugai said Trump told him then that he would take another look at the deal after he won the election.

          Zugai said he was hopeful Trump would eventually support it after speaking with Mon Valley workers and members of Mon Valley communities.

          So yes, you could argue they’re delusional and deluded themselves into believing he may change his mind on the policy, but they did vote for him on that basis and so felt betrayed and conned when reality happened.

          Also we obviously don’t know whatever conversation he personally had with Trump, but it could have potentially been enough to convince him there was a real chance of Trump changing his mind, and Trump may have intentionally led him to believe that, but that’s obviously speculation. I do think that’s what he truly believed though. And it appears Trump didn’t actively try to make it clear at the time.

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