• Pandantic [they/them]@midwest.social
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    9 hours ago

    I see what you’re saying, but you they can’t become a comrade if they died of despair. We need all the people we can get, so if that’s what it takes them to get to enlightenment, so be it. I say, eat the pills that make you numb until you’re to a place where you can stand, then let them go (and maybe step into some psychedelics if you want to/are able) and open your eyes to the horror around you, now able to face it. Then we can fight the system together.

    It worked for me anyway.

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      5 hours ago

      The point is, from an epidemiological perspective, the correct treatments to advocate for are things like environmentalism and consumer protection law, not easier access to prozac or whatever. We will never solve the problem until we’re honest with ourselves, as a society, about the root causes.

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        3 hours ago

        Yeah, I get that, but you have to do what you have to do to stand on your own two feet before you stare at the ugliness of the world and face it or it will break you. It that takes antidepressants, take them until you’re ready to shake them off.

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        3 hours ago

        It’s okay, maybe you’re not ready. Honestly, the psychedelics helped me more than the antidepressants ever did, but you have to be ready to walk down that road.

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          Actually, I have been interested. It’s not an approved method of treatment, so it’s inaccessible for those of us not familiar (or comfortable with) going the less than legal route. The information I’ve gathered on the topic makes it seem risky, so someone who really knows what they’re doing needs to be there to guide me through it.

          TLDR I’m interested, but it needs to be a good experience.

          • Pandantic [they/them]@midwest.social
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            2 hours ago

            Microdosing is a lot less risky, mushrooms spores are legal to buy, and growing mushrooms is a fun hobby that’s not terribly difficult, just takes some commitment. That’s what I did.

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      8 hours ago

      they can’t become a comrade if they died of despair

      I believe it could happen one day, if some nerds can figure out how to do brain preservation. (well, that and whatever tech/biology stuff is needed to revive and support a brain)

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        3 hours ago

        I knew a full-on singulatarian who killed himself due to mental illness. Someone dying of despair will never preserve their brain for (what they see as) unending torture.

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          3 hours ago

          I was focusing more on the death part, and that dying in such a setting is a small step up from despair if arranging hope existed. Even if considered impossible, it’d basically be euthanasia which is still better than a true death of despair.

          However I was also talking about physical preservation. A digital copy does not do anything for me. Though yeah, revival conditions would still be a worry either way if it could not be put into some kind of revival contract.