Australian Senate, last sitting of the year. No idea when the Social Media Ban debate is kicking off.

If anyone’s keen, feel free to give a live run-down of anything interesting in this thread.

(sorry about all the edits, just trying to get a decent thumbnail: elevated photo of the Australian Senate)

  • NaevaTheRat [she/her]@vegantheoryclub.org
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    Why do you want more social media companies? Ideally the industry is regulated out of existence, at least in its current form.

    What social good is served should not be in the hands of companies mining data and advertising. Forums, self hosted federated systems, and chat rooms were/are all vastly superior in terms of social good:harm ratio.

    Making it completely unprofitable and impossible to comply with under current mass signup sell ads models would be the point.

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      We’re on social media right now. It’s not the big for-profit guys who lose out with that sort of legislation. It’s smaller guys, including those run for the fun of it.

      • NaevaTheRat [she/her]@vegantheoryclub.org
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        Yeah, and federates socmed can easily assume responsibility for messages by not having mass sign up and moving to a trusted users, largely self hosted base. Lemmy is designed around replacing reddit with all the massive flaws of that.

        I mean tell me you think lemmy.world is contributing to the world haha.

        you could easily assume legal responsibility for what you published under a slightly different model where you only hosted your own content/the content of trusted users.

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          I mean tell me you think lemmy.world is contributing to the world haha.

          I literally don’t know, because federation issues over the last 12 months or so have meant I never see their content in my feed. But before that? Yes, it definitely was. Certainly more than ML and hexbear. Or Reddit.

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            Really? you think that it’s on the whole good and wouldn’t be better if replaced by a system of smaller, more topic focused networks where administrators have less access to user data and less ability to control conversation? Where infrastructure was less vulnerable to single point failure?

            Do you remember what irc, xmpp, and bbs’s were like? Or were they before your time. One angry admin on lemmy.world could compromise ~170k users and they’re large enough that they could also distribute malicious files to like half a million computers. That is so obviously not good I feel completely baffled that you don’t see the problem.