I used to think that, but really he won the center voter. He appealed on jobs, and inflation, and manufacturing, and all those things that are center. He really did get the center voter.
It sounds like you’re just making up justifications for the party not moving to the left in the future.
Every time they rely on the left they lose. Like we just saw that. They relied on the left coming out for abortion rights and to save mfing democracy and they couldn’t even do that.
You seem to have confused “relying on the left” with “taking the left for granted and moving to the right.” Which is what they did, why they lost, and the only thing you want them to ever do.
You mean the last 4 months they had in the last 44+ years? Which Obama used to get the ACA through. I barely blame him for that.
BUT that wasn’t even the point, which you’re ducking. You said take the left for granted and don’t offer them anything. Well they literally didn’t, and they literally offered them exactly what they wanted. And the left didn’t show up.
You mean the last 4 months they had in the last 44+ years?
The 4 mOnThS they also were happy to use to bail out wall street? Those 4 months?
And they also had a majority for the first two years of Biden’s term. They had enough seats to kill the filibuster forever and protect Roe. They chose not to. Now make more excuses. Maybe the sun was in their eyes. Their dog ate the bill.
You said take the left for granted and don’t offer them anything.
I said they take the left for granted and move to the right. I didn’t say they didn’t offer anything. You know what you call it when you make up someone’s opinion, knock it down, and then declare victory? IT’S A FUCKING STRAWMAN, you insufferable giant hypocrite.
And as for what they “offered,” it was shit they “offered” multiple times in the past and kept conveniently getting in their own way. Do that enough, you lose credibility.
See I made a mistake. I should have left you pondering your “AND” operator of yours. You tried to duck and distract (to both me and yourself), which I responded to.
So I’ll leave today to think about you breaking that “AND” operator that you insist on other people.
It sounds like you’re just making up justifications for the party not moving to the left in the future.
Every time they rely on the left they lose. Like we just saw that. They relied on the left coming out for abortion rights and to save mfing democracy and they couldn’t even do that.
You seem to have confused “relying on the left” with “taking the left for granted and moving to the right.” Which is what they did, why they lost, and the only thing you want them to ever do.
If capable they would have passed abortion law, that is not “taking the left for granted and moving to the right” lol.
And I see you’re still on your strawman lol. See other reply.
Sure they would have. Like the last two times they had a majority and didn’t fucking feel like it.
You mean the last 4 months they had in the last 44+ years? Which Obama used to get the ACA through. I barely blame him for that.
BUT that wasn’t even the point, which you’re ducking. You said take the left for granted and don’t offer them anything. Well they literally didn’t, and they literally offered them exactly what they wanted. And the left didn’t show up.
The 4 mOnThS they also were happy to use to bail out wall street? Those 4 months?
And they also had a majority for the first two years of Biden’s term. They had enough seats to kill the filibuster forever and protect Roe. They chose not to. Now make more excuses. Maybe the sun was in their eyes. Their dog ate the bill.
I said they take the left for granted and move to the right. I didn’t say they didn’t offer anything. You know what you call it when you make up someone’s opinion, knock it down, and then declare victory? IT’S A FUCKING STRAWMAN, you insufferable giant hypocrite.
And as for what they “offered,” it was shit they “offered” multiple times in the past and kept conveniently getting in their own way. Do that enough, you lose credibility.
See I made a mistake. I should have left you pondering your “AND” operator of yours. You tried to duck and distract (to both me and yourself), which I responded to.
So I’ll leave today to think about you breaking that “AND” operator that you insist on other people.
When you’re wrong, you just ignore my entire comment and spout nonsense.