• iii@mander.xyz
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    9 hours ago

    I’m questioning the first comment’s rethoric.

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      9 hours ago

      He is asking Biden to at least advocate for imposing pressure on Israelis if it can’t do it

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        7 hours ago

        I’m sure if Hamas agreed to retreat 20 miles from the border they’d get the same deal

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          So you’re suggesting ethnic cleansing. You don’t have to say it because that’s the only possible consequence of your suggestion. Absolutely disgusting.

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          20 miles from the border is in the Sea… Which shows again how anything short of total annihilation of anyone question Israel supremacy seems insufficient for Israel and its supporters.

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          6 hours ago

          I am sure if Israel didn’t decide to invade the West bank and Gaza in 67 they would live in peace

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            6 hours ago

            I’m not sure if you’re joking, but if you’re not, you might want to read a little about the war you’re referencing.

            Israel invaded those territories because Jordan and Egypt were using them to launch a surprise attack.

            “Live in peace” is a bit subjective in your example lol

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              I love of israelis themselves expose those lies

              The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him. - Mossad Chief Meir Amit

              This entire story about the danger of extermination was invented and exaggerated after the fact to justify the annexation of new Arab territories“. - Israeli Minister Mordecai Bentov

              They attacked on a Monday, knowing that on Wednesday the Egyptian vice-president would arrive in Washington to talk about re-opening the Strait of Tiran. We might not have succeeded in getting Egypt to reopen the strait, but it was a real possibility.” - Dean Rusk, the American Secretary of State at that time

              We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn’t possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn’t shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance farther, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that’s how it was. - Israeli general Moshe Dayan

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            6 hours ago

            I’m sorry I have to explain this. In the case of Hezbollah, they’re agreeing to retreat to a distance from the border from where they can’t (significantly) attack Israel again. The poster I’m replying to questions why Israel can’t (be forced to) make a similar deal with Hamas. I’m using sarcasm to point to an important reason why

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        8 hours ago

        That’s a surprising, to me, interpretation of that comment. Can you please point out to me where the comment argued for diplomacy?

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            8 hours ago

            Sure. Line-by-line we venture:

            Sooo…what about Gaza, Biden?

            No indication of argueing for diplomacy

            What about Palestine, Biden?

            Idem

            Eh?

            Idem

            Eh??

            Idem

            In conclusion: to the best of my abilities, I fail to see how this comment argues for diplomacy.

            “He is asking Biden to at least advocate for imposing pressure on Israelis if it can’t do it”, so far as I can see, that tought is not present in that comment.

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              8 hours ago

              Israel only stop what they does when they are pressured to do so. If you think that stopping arming them wouldn’t make them stop the war of Gaza, I don’t know what else I can say to you

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                8 hours ago

                Is it possible that you do not understand the meaning of the word rhetoric?