Germany records rise in violence against women – DW – 11/25/2024
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A woman is killed by a partner or former partner nearly every two days in Germany. Activists have called on the government to do more to end violence against women.

Summary

A woman is killed by a partner or ex-partner nearly every two days in Germany, with 155 such murders in 2023, according to the first-ever Federal Criminal Police Office report on gender-specific crimes.

Activists and officials are calling for stronger protections, but Germany’s anti-domestic violence law remains stalled in political negotiations.

Women’s shelters lack 14,000 spaces, forcing some victims to travel hundreds of kilometers for safety.

Funding gaps, insufficient legal protections, and high costs deter many from seeking help, perpetuating cycles of violence.

    • MicroWave@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      183·
      13 hours ago

      From your link (translated), the men in the survey didn’t seem to engage in whataboutism:

      The participants most often experienced psychological violence (40 percent) [including] aggressive shouting, insults and humiliation in front of others. 39 percent suffered from the controlling behavior of the partner, isolation and permanent blame. 30 percent would also experience physical violence…

      …

      …With regard to their own perpetratorship, more than half of the men stated that they had used violence in a relationship themselves, about a quarter see themselves in both the victim and the perpetrator role.

      • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
        10·
        12 hours ago

        I don’t think much changed in the overall pattern, in another (also German) study what five years ago I read an absolutely overwhelming number of domestic violence constellations is mutual, provided psychological violence is taken into account, bluntly said assholes hook up with assholes. And lesbian couples have a higher rate than heteros who have a higher rate than gay men.

        I do think the whole current approach to addressing the issue is fundamentally flawed: Aggression is not particularly gendered, though expresses itself in gendered ways, we have to un-fuck the psychology of people overall. Long story short we need to eat the rich to take the pressure off, then, once people have a breather many will fix themselves, and the rest will be in a state where putting them on the couch actually has a chance of success. Hard to drain a swamp while you’re fighting off crocodiles.

      • fubo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        54·
        10 hours ago

        aggressive shouting, insults and humiliation in front of others

        It’s worth noting that these acts may be “violence” in someone’s estimation, but are not within the typical description of “violent crime” or “domestic violence” in a criminal sense.

        • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          34 minutes ago

          Insults are a crime over here as-is, and generally speaking psychological violence can be persecuted as assault as long as the impact reaches the level of bodily injury. E.g. driving someone into depression is assault.

          But you’re right the laws are insufficient in this regard: While e.g. cutting off hair is considered a bodily injury, a thing which is neither crippling nor permanent nor painful, the standard applied to psychological violence requires lasting, grave, impact, and thus victims have a very hard time getting justice.

          And, of course, all of this isn’t helped by psychological violence often simply not being considered violence by the median citizen. We need a culture shift in that regard.

      • fubo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        23·
        11 hours ago

        aggressive shouting, insults and humiliation in front of others

        It’s worth nothing that these acts may be “violence” in someone’s estimation, but are not within the typical description of “violent crime” or “domestic violence”.

    • lychee🍒@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      209·
      13 hours ago

      If it’s actually an important issue to you, why make your grand stand in the comments section of a post talking about a different issue

      • RubberDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
        84·
        12 hours ago

        In all fairness, reactions like yours are probably a reason why. Look, the MGTOW and incels should just fuck off already…

        In this case the subject is related, and a 45/55 split is way less than the disparity in media coverage would have everyone believe.

        The original comment you responded to could have been more helpful to ask for more attention for Domestic Violence in general. But something tells me it would have been met with similar responses.

        Alienating, and ignoring the issues men have that possibly even are a root cause for their instability that leads to DV is also helping women… maybe even more. This is like how poverty creates crime… not ethnicity. It is much more of a class issue than a gender causes violence/victimization issue…

      • rhabarba@feddit.orgEnglish
        916·
        13 hours ago

        The issue is mentioned in the text accompanying the post:

        Activists have called on the government to do more to end violence against women.

        I wish ‘activists’ would finally stop asking which gender the victim belongs to first in their fight against violence.

        • lychee🍒@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          93·
          9 hours ago

          This is a fallacy that’s been deconstructed so many fucking times the fact im about to do it again for you makes my tummy hurt a little bit but ill do it anyways

          You’re interpreting that quote as there being either one issue we can globally engage in, or another. But that’s not how it is. You could also go into any thread talking about violence against dogs, or violence against the elderly, or against Palestinians, and make the same annoying pointless whataboutism and you wouldn’t technically be incorrect that violence against men is just as valid, but you’d still receive backlash every time. Why? Because you’re using this issue that’s near to your heart, violence against men, and instead of engaging with it in an honest attempt to improve the situation, you’re simply weaponizing it against others and their cherished social issues to the benefit of literally nobody.

          You put activist in quotes but let me ask you, what op eds have you written? What charities have you donated to, nonprofits have you volunteered for? How many bricks have you thrown? I guarantee you none, because every single time I see someone doing the shit you’re doing, it’s the extent of their “activism,” and THATS where the quotation marks belong, on your shit, not anyone else’s.

          • rhabarba@feddit.orgEnglish
            53·
            9 hours ago

            I can both engage in the issue and try to point out bigotry about it online. The sheer fact that the post only talks about “violence against women” instead of “violence itself” makes comments like mine necessary, I’m afraid. It’s saddening to see that not all violence is condemned with the same energy by some.

          • 0x0@infosec.pubEnglish
            22·
            7 hours ago

            Now imagine what you’d sound like if my brick hits a woman lmao

        • TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org
          53·
          9 hours ago

          You obviously don’t give a shit enough to become an activist for your own opinions, otherwise you’d be out there too. Instead you’re here hijacking unrelated threads for it. You probably just get off on online controversy like so many other useless trolls.

          • rhabarba@feddit.orgEnglish
            32·
            9 hours ago

            You obviously don’t give a shit enough to become an activist for your own opinions

            No, you are wrong. However, it is perfectly reasonable to be an activist and still post on social media sometimes.

            unrelated

            Also no.