• umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    23 hours ago

    always has been.

    liberals are closer to fascists than to leftists

      • QuietCupcake [any, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        21 hours ago

        So you appear to be one of those dorks who thinks that all political positions exist only as a binary, falling somewhere on a spectrum between liberal and conservative. This is fucking stupid. It’s not entirely your fault, since that’s all that’s allowed to be officially acknowledged in amerikkka, but really you should know better by now. Hell, you should know better simply by virtue of the fact you’re posting your ignorance on a communist website. So apparently I’ll be the first to inform you that both liberalism and conservatism are very similar rightwing ideologies, with conservatism being essentially another branch of liberalism. This is recognized by most of the rest of the world, even many other “LiBeRaL dEmOcRaCiEs.” As communists, anarchists, leftists in general, we wholly reject liberalism and that includes conservatism (conservatism itself still subscribes to almost all liberal doctrine such as worship of private property). See, learn something new every day. :new the-more-you-know

        • with conservatism being essentially another branch of liberalism.

          It’s literally Conservative Liberalism. They just leave off the liberalism part to make people believe it’s something entirely different so they think they have a choice at the ballot box.

        • PointAndClique [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          19 hours ago

          If you’re American then you’re a lib. Even the American nazis are libs. The far right in the states is still left of center. Face it America is a socialist country and all the people and all the parties are just slightly left of center. It’s a country of moderates.

          OP is already on the ball dw

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        20 hours ago

        “Conservative” is just a subgroup of liberal at this point, since there’s not a monarchist status quo for them to cleave to like “conservatives” in the 19th and early 20th centuries could in some places (note: this gets weird in liberal monarchies like the UK where the monarchist dictatorship is just an accepted part of liberalism). “Conservative” is just the sub-category of liberal that’s defined by being even more racist, chauvinist, and extremist than is typical of mainstream liberalism.

        It’s not a binary, it’s not even a spectrum, it’s two competing blocs of one hard-right ideology.