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    Any idiot who says, “your body, my choice” at Thanksgiving is going to get force fed a drumstick the hard way. It is long past time to stop being polite with them. Women are dying because of this.

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      That’s the point where I’d politely ask them to come outside with me, then beat the shit out of them while repeating “Your body (punch), my choice (punch)” until I felt they got the point.

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          Leftists did show up. That’s the real rub in all this.

          The folks who stayed home were centrists without any strong allegiance, who never got their student loans forgiven or their energy bills reduced or their wages kept up with inflation.

          While Harris was hobnobbing with Liz Cheney, they were door knocking for legalized abortion. While she was begging for money from Silicon Valley, they were trying to get weed decriminalized in a few more states.

          And it’s not even like Dems didn’t win. Harris ran behind other statewide candidates in Arizona and North Carolina. In House districts it was even worse. Rashida Talib got twice the Harris vote count and won her district in a landslide, while Harris pandered to Israel to no avail.

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            I would love to see the statistics on this. Even more so if they do indeed show better electoral participation from the left. Sure, it would be a meaningless victory to see more fellow leftists looking at the big picture, but it would be something.

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        We’ll never know. It’s easy to think that every republican showed up, but democrats sat it out.

        Edit: is there a map of of people who didn’t vote? Why am I getting downvoted lol

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    I’m in the opposite boat. My inlaws are all MAGA whereas my wife and I are very much liberal. This is ‘her’ year for visiting family and she does want to go, but I’ve already warned her that her entire family is on the THINNEST of ice. It’s going to take a miracle for us to actually stay. I’m sort of looking forward to the first comment from them where we can simply scoop up the kids and head out.

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      My wife and I both posted images on Facebook about how we don’t feel safe around people who voted Trump and don’t consider them friends. Not even really decided if we’d say anything to family yet. Their parents sent them a message basically saying “so logically you don’t consider us friends or feel safe around us.” So that was the last straw. We aren’t going.

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    People who enjoy it when others are unhappy bother me so much.

    I don’t enjoy it when Republicans are unhappy. Sometimes I think they deserve to be unhappy, but I do not enjoy it.

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    Yeah. Last time I saw them they had a screaming fit in front of my kids about how much they hate black people. Unprovoked. They are SHOCKED we blocked them on socials. Like idk what you expect, but I’m not going to find out.

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        The only reason I voted for him was because we’re on the brink of WW3 and I thought he was truly the last hope of getting the wars settled. I’m scared, and I’m sorry, but shit is crazy right now. Trump at least has some relations with Russia and North Korea, that could potentially cool the pot. Feel free to tell me why I’m wrong, I’m open to discussion.

        Not going to tell you that you’re wrong, only that it’s funny that this is where we’ve landed when it feels like the world is at 1939.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement

        Something something doomed to repeat it…

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        Yeah. Israel gets to colonize Gaza, Putin gets Ukraine, and he doesn’t have to go to war with the USA because there’s a known russian asset as president.

        I agree that Trump will end a couple of wars by making sure that the bad guys win them. Just surrender human rights and dignity, let white supremacist dictators take over, let a couple genocides happen, war prevented, great success.

        Oh, and meanwhile poor people and LGBT are persecuted in America. Doesn’t matter, war prevented.

        The stereotypical image of a Trump voter is an overconfident bully, but let this be proof that you can also vote Trump out of complete cowardice. I, recluse nerd, cannot comprehend being so pusillanimous that you put a dictator in power just because you’re scared.

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        I say this as an ex republican, about 10 years free from it. Turn off your media feeds, they are lying to you. They know you will believe it because they think you are stupid.

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          they know you will believe it because they think you are stupid.

          looks at family

          they’re probably right.

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            Yeah, looking back one of the hardest parts of being stuck in the right wing media bubble is accepting how confused I was. College and traveling helped me escape.

            He’s deleted his comment so idk if they still see replies. My point with unplugging is to reduce the amount constant hate and fear mongering. Right now their whole belief system is built on hate and fear, so they can’t argue in good faith. Removing those daily inputs can help most people begin to escape the right wing bubble.

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          I hope in the coming years you have some luck turning around the people in your peer groups also. (Assuming they are still republicans)

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    I guess that is the biggest crime the Republican party committed, it polarized society for decades now, taking us to today where families are falling apart over something as stupid as politics

    Next stop: a possible civil war where not only neighbor kill neighbors, but even family kill their own members

    Mind you, I’m not trying to excuse the fascist assholes, but a lot of these people were just people watching the wrong YouTube channel for a while, watching more and more fox news, etc… how would they have been today had they gotten normal content that wasn’t specifically designed to brainwash him?

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    Edit: was meant as a reply to someone who is getting ready to endure sitting at the table with red hats; and had accidentally instead replied to OP

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OspMIhmbn8Q

    You might find this helpful. There will likely be another this year (fyi Beau took a sabbatical for workaholism and his wife Belle and collaborators are doing an excellent job of carrying it forward)

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    This comic is nonsensical.

    Republicans hold family ties as a tenant of their political ideology.

    Democrats are fine with telling every family member they have to fuck off and die over political differences. They also love to self flagellate because “Thanksgiving is fucking evil!!”

    It’s absolutely insufferable Democrats that would not be attending Thanksgiving.

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      Republicans hold family ties as a tenant of their political ideology

      “My MAGA second family, as much as I’m embarrassed to admit this, oftentimes took precedence over my actual blood family,” he said. Looking back, he said his immersion in the world of MAGA strained relationships, including in his family.

      Source

      Also, are these family tenants why conservatives readily kick their gay kids out of the house? I met a few of them as a volunteer back in the day.

      Democrats are fine with telling every family member they have to fuck off and die over political differences

      Similarly, all the people I know who went no contact with their conservative family members were due to abuse.

      Face it, conservatives of all ages are hostile towards anyone who doesn’t follow their ideals. They dominate online harassment and death threats over political differences, pushing their ideology to exterminate a good portion of those they don’t like. Calling for a second civil war and WWII-style concentration camps doesn’t spell out peaceful family members if you ask me.

      Blaming liberals for what conservatives perpetrate is clutching pearls.

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      Family is more than just sharing the same dna. Family is being supportive and understanding of each other… and if certain members want to demonize people for being different, then they arent being very supportive or understanding.

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      You got triggered by the comic, didn’t you?

      The guy is an insufferable ass, where the thing he’s looking forward to most is pissing off his family at turkey-day dinner.

      Disinviting a disrespectful ass who’s absolutely going to provoke a fight isn’t political- it’s just good sense.

      (And let’s just be honest with ourselves, republicans at large, not even just MAGA, at least resemble this guy.)

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      You seem to be having trouble understanding this comic. Thanksgiving is being hosted by his relatives, who don’t want him there. Millions of Democrats host thanksgiving dinners every year. This would be one of those situations where he’s being told to fuck off over political differences (though it’s really more about he’s built his personality around those differences and desires to harm other family members with them)

      Being so obnoxious and harmful that your family doesn’t want to be around you is not a commitment to family ties, it’s a commitment to your own ego.

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      It’s absolutely insufferable Democrats that would not be attending Thanksgiving.

      The joke is that the Democrat family isn’t inviting the Trumpet, not that the Trumpet decided not to attend

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        Why shouldn’t they? Opening their minds and readings opinions outside of their bubble is not something negative

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    I’ll be the one dining amongst the reds this year. Most of my family is content with just casual bigotry, but my brother is more outspoken and knows how to push my buttons (obviously, he’s the youngest). My plan is to get drunk, quickly, so that I don’t feel any guilt or shame about speaking my mind right back at him.

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      You should learn the facts and numbers well. Maybe even listen to some Shapiro to ready yourself for the flavor of points they’ll try and make

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      You should make them pay 1.50 for every plate they didn’t make themselves and someone had to import from another house, refuse to cook or tidy anythingas thats done by immigrants, and point out loudly everything not made in the US.

      Id start with pointing out every imported alcohol and amy food not grown in the US.

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        You should make them pay 1.50 for every plate they didn’t make themselves and someone had to import from another house, refuse to cook or tidy anythingas thats done by immigrants, and point out loudly everything not made in the US.

        “Sorry fam, it’s a $10 a piece for this turkey. Don’t want people thinking they got an easy ride.”

        “Oh you want me to help clean, I charge $20 a hour…Oh you want me to help for free. Isn’t that communism? Aren’t we encouraging people not to pull themselves up from their boot straps.”

        “You want me to leave and never come back? That’s free.”

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    I’m not going to Thanksgiving this year. I’d rather celebrate with my cats than my crazy family

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      My tradition (ever since I moved away from my irl friends) is to stock up on one of every type of turkey TV dinner at the grocery store, then feast on that over the course of the 5-day weekend (thank you, Union!). It’s super chill. I play video games and knit. My pup and I will hang out at the dog park.

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      Me too. Are you telling them why? I’m leaning towards cutting them all off, going full no contact, saying exactly why, and moving to either a blue state or out of the country for a while (which I have the means to do).

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        I normally find some stupid excuse to get out of family gatherings, but this will probably be the year I tell them directly.

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          I’m really torn because overall my family and I have decent relations and they aren’t the totally fucking insane Maga types. But I’m so incredibly disgusted, ashamed, and terrified, I can’t just go over and pretend everything is normal. We are so far past politics as usual and the ebbs and flows of power/control. So idk what to do. I’m probably going to skip and stay home and order a pizza and smoke all day and watch LOTR or something, just can’t take this shit anymore idk

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      This is the first time I have ever had a good (medical) excuse to not attend my wife’s conservative family’s Thanksgiving. The problem is they’re evangelicals and this is Indiana, so they always vote red.

      To their credit, they are very warm and welcome people. They accepted my daughter is queer the moment my wife told them (whereas my supposedly left-wing mother poorly hides her distaste) and they welcomed me into their family despite knowing I was Jewish. They have never once tried to convert me.

      I don’t really get it, but it won’t be an issue for much longer anyway because we’re emigrating ASAP.

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        Ayyyy, Indiana gang. I’m up in amishland where it’s quite red, so I definitely understand.

        I’m interested in emigrating too, though I’m a bit worried about this seemingly global shift to the right.

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          Yeah, there’s nowhere 100% safe, but I’m a dual citizen with the UK and they are working to ban conversion therapy. My goal right now is to just keep my child safe.