One of the creators of a Christian nonprofit effort aimed at better Christian politics claims President-elect Donald Trump s victory in the 2024 election is a disaster for the United States
God isn’t real. Jesus wasn’t real. They worship a story in a book written by people as a method to cow the masses. I don’t care how “Christlike” they try to live, they are giving their support to a group that is based on hate, regardless of the teachings in their sacred texts.
Must be nice to live in a world so black and white. I don’t care what anyone believes is real or isn’t real so long as they are respectful of other people’s choices and different lifestyles. Yeah in a perfect world, we wouldn’t have religion, but for those people who it genuinely helps them be better people, who cares ?
You honestly sound like a religious fanatic yourself saying how much you “hate all Christians”.
I think it’s a matter of perspective. When you look at Christians, you may see positive aspects or good outcomes from their beliefs. When I look at Christianity, I see it through a different lens, shaped by the contradictions and harm I’ve observed or experienced firsthand. I don’t disregard any positive intentions or outcomes, but for me, it’s hard to overlook some deeply ingrained patterns within the ideology — including aspects like intolerance or exclusivity that have hurt many people.
It’s also worth considering that Christianity isn’t just a collection of individuals; it’s a large, varied belief system with core doctrines that each believer subscribes to in some way. As an ideology, it’s not simply a matter of ‘fixing’ individual flaws. The core beliefs remain, and even when Christians focus on love and kindness, many still uphold doctrines that have been used to judge or exclude others. While different denominations may interpret the Bible’s teachings in unique ways, they share foundational scriptures that include passages some may find difficult or divisive.
Growing up within the church, especially in a context that emphasized both Old and New Testament teachings, I was taught a blend of ideas: love and forgiveness, but also rigid judgment. I remember questions of morality being answered with Old Testament severity as often as with New Testament compassion. This created a sense of exclusivity that left little room for people who didn’t fit within certain moral boundaries. For instance, while ‘Love the sinner, hate the sin’ was often preached, it felt conditional, with acceptance only offered to those who conformed.
So, when I hear that I might be seeing things too ‘black and white,’ I can only share what my experience has shown me. Christianity, as I knew it, seemed to draw strict lines — separating people based on perceived righteousness. This perspective may vary widely, but for me, this pattern was real and impactful. Walking away from Christianity allowed me to shed some of the restrictive views I grew up with, and I feel like a better person for it. However, I can’t ignore the impact of these teachings on others, and for me, seeing the harm and continuing down the same path feels deeply problematic.
Definitely the latter.
Ok.
I guess I feel differently. If Christians actually try to live as Christ taught, then they get a pass from me.
God isn’t real. Jesus wasn’t real. They worship a story in a book written by people as a method to cow the masses. I don’t care how “Christlike” they try to live, they are giving their support to a group that is based on hate, regardless of the teachings in their sacred texts.
Must be nice to live in a world so black and white. I don’t care what anyone believes is real or isn’t real so long as they are respectful of other people’s choices and different lifestyles. Yeah in a perfect world, we wouldn’t have religion, but for those people who it genuinely helps them be better people, who cares ?
You honestly sound like a religious fanatic yourself saying how much you “hate all Christians”.
I think it’s a matter of perspective. When you look at Christians, you may see positive aspects or good outcomes from their beliefs. When I look at Christianity, I see it through a different lens, shaped by the contradictions and harm I’ve observed or experienced firsthand. I don’t disregard any positive intentions or outcomes, but for me, it’s hard to overlook some deeply ingrained patterns within the ideology — including aspects like intolerance or exclusivity that have hurt many people.
It’s also worth considering that Christianity isn’t just a collection of individuals; it’s a large, varied belief system with core doctrines that each believer subscribes to in some way. As an ideology, it’s not simply a matter of ‘fixing’ individual flaws. The core beliefs remain, and even when Christians focus on love and kindness, many still uphold doctrines that have been used to judge or exclude others. While different denominations may interpret the Bible’s teachings in unique ways, they share foundational scriptures that include passages some may find difficult or divisive.
Growing up within the church, especially in a context that emphasized both Old and New Testament teachings, I was taught a blend of ideas: love and forgiveness, but also rigid judgment. I remember questions of morality being answered with Old Testament severity as often as with New Testament compassion. This created a sense of exclusivity that left little room for people who didn’t fit within certain moral boundaries. For instance, while ‘Love the sinner, hate the sin’ was often preached, it felt conditional, with acceptance only offered to those who conformed.
So, when I hear that I might be seeing things too ‘black and white,’ I can only share what my experience has shown me. Christianity, as I knew it, seemed to draw strict lines — separating people based on perceived righteousness. This perspective may vary widely, but for me, this pattern was real and impactful. Walking away from Christianity allowed me to shed some of the restrictive views I grew up with, and I feel like a better person for it. However, I can’t ignore the impact of these teachings on others, and for me, seeing the harm and continuing down the same path feels deeply problematic.