In 2016, we warned that Hillary Clinton’s campaign was not resonating with Americans. In 2024, we warned about Kamala Harris, and we were ignored again. Now, the worst has happened. So, what do we do? A leftist analysis can help us chart a path forward.
  • poke@sh.itjust.works
    92·
    8 days ago

    The government allowed lies to be told on TV and on the internet under the guise of news. There were no real consequences to those who had listeners and repeated foreign government talking points for money. We have not seen any real investigation on how much interference was ran on social media.

    Nearly every human being believes that they are a good person making rational decisions, so its important to examine the environment around these people to where they can believe they made the right choice when it comes to electing Trump and sadly, it seems our mostly unregulated free speech that let it happen, because the republican party is more organized and effective in communicating their platform and slandering their opponents than democrats are, and they motivated more people to vote than the democrats could as a result. Anger and hate are strong emotions and motivators, and unfortunately the republicans keep on using them and it keeps on working.

    I have no idea what you’re blaming Lemmy on, if anything I’d expect the userbase here to be more active and left-leaning voters than average. People have a good reason to be frustrated, and I think pointing that frustration at the only alternative option we had for a political party failing election after election to learn how to communicate and how to deliver on what the people really want is a reasonable take.

    • LucidNightmare@lemm.ee
      42·
      7 days ago

      The government allowed lies to be told on TV and on the internet under the guise of news. There were no real consequences to those who had listeners and repeated foreign government talking points for money. We have not seen any real investigation on how much interference was ran on social media.

      I agree.

      Nearly every human being believes that they are a good person making rational decisions, so its important to examine the environment around these people to where they can believe they made the right choice when it comes to electing Trump and sadly, it seems our mostly unregulated free speech that let it happen, because the republican party is more organized and effective in communicating their platform and slandering their opponents than democrats are, and they motivated more people to vote than the democrats could as a result. Anger and hate are strong emotions and motivators, and unfortunately the republicans keep on using them and it keeps on working.

      I agree.

      I have no idea what you’re blaming Lemmy on, if anything I’d expect the userbase here to be more active and left-leaning voters than average. People have a good reason to be frustrated, and I think pointing that frustration at the only alternative option we had for a political party failing election after election to learn how to communicate and how to deliver on what the people really want is a reasonable take.

      I’m basically pointing out how senseless some of these comments have been, on almost every single post about either Harris, Walz, or the DNC. The biggest problem this election, that we know of as of yet, was the absence of votes, and white men and women, Latino men and women, voting against a women of color.

      The people here may be left-leaning, or at least say they are, but they have nothing but shit takes trying to blame Harris for a shit campaign. They actively chose to allow a fucking criminal to determine the future of their country. It is really quite a take, considering that she actually had policies, told you where to find them, and was CONSTANTLY berated on interviews and shit. Trump got softball questions, and no matter fucking what, he always got away with every single stupid and evil thing he did or said.

      Crazy.

      • msage@programming.dev
        21·
        7 days ago

        But, surprise, everyone knew all of that 8 fucking years ago.

        They knew Trump voters will vote Trump no matter what.

        They knew he will spew lies in every direction at record speed.

        They knew what has happened to Hillary.

        They’ve seen the Biden victory.

        And NOTHING was learned at any of this.

        I’m not from the US, but I do blame the DNC ever since 2016. And, while I am distraught and sad that Trump will guarantee the death of us all through global catastrophy, he did nothing new this election, from the previous two. And neither did anyone else. Guess what happens when the people get fucked by high prices and no help?

        DNC is actively stopping actual leftists, there is no hope for any meaningful progress, just small kisses of good gestures.

        Imagine if the leftists had a manifesto like Project 2025. Imagine strong messages like ‘taxes only for the billionaires’, ‘free press from the oligarchy’, ‘no more oil subsidies’, ‘reign in the wall street and blackrock’.