Just thinking about what quick, digestible document I could throw at libs who are panicking and desperate for something to hold on to and i can’t really think of something that’s written for treat demons but still actually communist.
Any thoughts?
I have to flesh it out but I keep being struck by the contradictory nature of American elections and how frankly nonsensical it all is and it returned me to this (from Wikipedia)
If this and similar studies are accurate it means a significant number of Americans can read what’s on a page and repeat it back to you, but couldn’t tell you what it means or draw anything from it. If it is the case that people can read but not understand than no wonder Americans are so clueless - they’re thinking at the level of twelve year old children.
I think coming out of this election one of the things we should be doing is organizing for the collective education, both political and general. It’s no wonder that communists of yore prioritized workers schools, study groups, newspapers, etc. Illiteracy is a tool of the imperialist because it allows people to wallow in ignorance and uncritical thought. We should be organizing study groups (and schools where possible) for the people in our lives to study, appreciate, and create not just theory but also art, music, literature, etc. of both the expressly political and seemingly apolitical varieties. As long as we are engaging with people and challenging them to think for themselves they will come closer to socialism.
These groups can also serve as the basis for actual organizing which is the second thing that we as a society need to learn. We must make change if we want it, politicians and bureaucrats will not do it for us. This is especially true in the workplace where workers have come to rely on government intervention or legal contracts for far too long into a time when capitalists do not care and will only respond to actual labor action.
Thank you for bringing this up. Just handing someone a book of leftist theory isn’t going to do anything if the person isn’t able to understand what they’re reading. I’ve seen a lot of recommendations for leftist books. But every book I’ve seen recommended is well above the reading level of a majority of the US. Relevant to current events, liberal media talked down about how basic Trump’s speeches were, literally calling him a “low grade elementary schooler”. However, talking in such a basic manner meant that people could understand what he was saying. It should be unsurprising that people will support a message they can understand over one they can’t.
I know I’m an outsider here, so please let me know if this out of line, but this is something I care a lot about after my neighbors tried to read The Communist Manifesto in their first semester of college and were completely unable to understand any of it (relatedly, if anyone knows of any leftist works of any type that would be accessible with only basic literacy skills, I would love to hear about them.)
Nah, you’re good and this is good information. Welcome to Hexbear.
I think organizations built around solving more pressing needs will do better. You won’t be able to get a person that you are describing to show up to a reading group or to get educated just for education sake. Maybe you could get a person but not many. If you are giving them food when they need food, or helping them get their car lights fixed so they don’t get pulled over and have to pay tickets, or helping them fight their landlords and bosses through organizing legal clinics, or helping them get their power back on, you create a captive audience who have the same issues in life and have come to you willingly because you help them to survive. This is more powerful than helping them to be educated or literate, things they don’t likely see these as issues of importance in their lives, no matter how wrong they may be about that.
Teach a person to read and they have a powerful weapon they can use to help solve problems facing their community.
And from what I’ve heard from adult literacy teachers, people very much do want to learn. It’s an enormous handicap and isolates you greatly.
Since written words were developed all the people who encounter them come to value reading as one of the most desirable skills a person can have. And in our world where being able to operate a computer is the difference between work and unemployment having a good foundation of reading skills is critical.
I’m not arguing in favor of illiteracy I’m saying that the average person won’t make time to get more literate between their three jobs but they will show up to get free groceries or a dental exam
Gotcha. Valid consideration that needs to be taken in to account.
A million upbears. Spot on
A softer list I made on a Lemmy.ml thread that got a good amount of momentum and very little pushback on what liberals should do in the coming years:
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Get organized. Join a Leftist org, find solidarity with fellow comrades, and protect each other. The Dems will not save you, it is up to the Workers to protect themselves. The Party for Socialism and Liberation and Freedom Road Socialist Organization both organize year round, every year, because the battle for progress is a constant struggle, not a single election. See if there is a chapter near you, or start one! Or, see if there’s an org you like more near you and join it, the point is that organizing is the best thing any leftist can do.
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Read theory. A good primer is Blackshirts and Reds. It will help contextualize what fascism is, what causes it, and how to stop it. I can offer more advanced reading lists regarding Marxism if you’d like, but this is a good starting point.
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Aggressively combat white supremacy, misogyny, queerphobia, and other attacks on marginalized communities. Cede no ground.
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Be more industrious, and self-sufficient. Take up gardening, home repair, tinkering. It is through practice that you elevate your problem-solving capabilities. Not only will you improve your skill at one subject, but your general problem-solving muscles get strengthened as well. Theory guides practice, which sharpens theory to be reapplied to better practice.
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Learn self-defense. Get armed, if practical. Be ready to protect yourself and others. The Democrats will not save us, we must save each other.
Here’s a little “intro to Marxism-Leninism” list I threw together, modified a bit. It’s critically missing Queer Theory, Feminist Theory, and National Liberation theory, so any additions on that matter would be excellent. I am working through intersectional theory right now, which is why it is missing from this present list, the goal is to be as straight to the point as possible.
A good intro for someone with no familiarity is Engels’ Principles of Communism and if you are anti-AES but willing to read I recommend Parenti’s Blackshirts and Reds.
From there, it becomes more important to understand that Marxism-Leninism is broken into 3 major components:
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Dialectical and Historical Materialism
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Critique of Capitalism along the lines of Marx’s Law of Value
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Advocacy for Revolutionary Socialism
And as such, I recommend, in order:
- Politzer’s Elementary Principles of Philosophy
By far my favorite primer on Dialectical and Historical Materialism. By understanding DiaMat first, you make it easier to understand the rest of Marxism.
Further reading on DiaMat, but crucially introduces the why of Scientific Socialism, essentially explaining how Capitalism itself preps the conditions for public ownership and planning by centralizing itself into monopolist syndicates.
- Marx’s Wage Labor and Capital as well as Wages, Price and Profit
Best taken as a pair, these essays simplify the most important parts of the Law of Value.
Absolutely crucial and the most important work for understanding the modern era and its primary contradictions.
- Lenin’s The State and Revolution
Excellent refutation of revisionists and Social Democrats who think the State can be reformed, and not replaced. Also a good call to action to cap off the intro.
After reading all of this, whoever has completed these works should have a good grasp of the basics of Marxism-Leninism and be equipped to do their own Marxist-Leninist analysis, though tons of excellent and fairly critical works were dropped for the sake of limiting the scope to an intro reading list.
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- Holy shit this worked REALLY REALLY WELL. STRIKE NOW COMRADES (shoutout to @Sickos)
- I also had good luck with this so far.
I’ve also had success with: “The disenchantment with the Democratic party will pave the way for a true 3rd party that represents regular folks instead of rich donors.”
Another thread: Lit for your weeping lib neighbors
EDIT: I also slip in that half the voters didn't vote in 2020, and that this cycle looks no different, and that the party with a ground game has an opening that neither party is using.
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Don’t mind me just banging the sign again…
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Liberals are outnumbered 2-to-1 by non-voters. 50% of the electorate did not vote in 2020, so if they aren’t doorknocking they are not serious.
From and talking about 3rd parties
that workers’ candidates are nominated everywhere in opposition to bourgeois-democratic candidates. As far as possible they should be League members and their election should be pursued by all possible means. Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled.
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Been doing this, works well
US Democracy is officially dead now (according to Blue MAGA rhetoric), so maybe they are receptive to revolutionary agitprop again. BLM uprising occurred during Trump’s first term, so just need an issue to unite people under to mobilize again.
Blue MAGA has been running into the arms of right-centrism for a while, so it will be interesting to see where the new faultlines emerge. Effective leftist rhetoric needs to draw a clear line between Democratic Party and real leftist organizing separate from Dem machine. As long as libs keep thinking Dems are the only viable org in US politics, real leftist orgs will continue to be considered ineffective in the lib brain.
The rhetorical trick is to convince libs that Dems have failed by their own framing, and that means to try something else. Libs that can’t accept this were never going to be leftists anyway.
More modern theory would be a godsend no matter what work you decided to update.
I work in a university and have some curriculum Input even though I’m a non tenure track faculty. We are reworking the textbook this year and I’m one of the writers. Curent stuff is very libbed “rhetoric is like the courts, look at this good lib decision” shit.
Needless to say I’m gonna cook because the courts won’t save the libs now. The “what is to be done” framing is going to be front and center.
I think this article I shared earlier in the week on /c/history is a pretty good piece to send to people, especially those at least sympathetic towards socialism. It outlines how the abolitionists actually managed to achieve lasting change in the United States, despite its 2 party system and powerful slave-owning aristocracy.
Basically it lays out what was done by the abolitionists to achieve a better world. That could help us start a serious discussion on what is to be done in our time.
The Abolitionist Dirty Break by Ben Grove
From the introduction of the piece:
How can a small movement challenge the Leviathan? How can it find strength in its independence? How can it topple a power that seems omnipotent and achieve a revolution?
In 2024, these tasks may seem hopelessly difficult to socialists in the United States. But defying the powerful has never been easy, and we will always have lessons to learn from our predecessors. One of the most important, yet also misunderstood, is the American abolitionist movement.
It’s easy enough to celebrate abolitionists for their righteous principles: activists of every stripe invoke their legacy. Yet abolitionists and their Radical Republican allies were more than just moral idealists. They were also cunning revolutionary strategists. Using principled independent politics, they successfully attacked America’s slaveholding oligarchy and the two-party system that protected it. Their insights and debates have tremendous relevance for modern socialists, because abolitionism helped to ignite the most important revolutionary rupture in U.S. history: the Civil War and the downfall of chattel slavery.
And these were the conditions that their movement built itself in:
By the 1820s, a two-party system of Whigs and Democrats was developing, nurtured by the brilliant New York politician Martin Van Buren. Van Buren’s explicit goal was to use the excitement of party politics to distract the masses from more dangerous conflicts over slavery. Whigs and Democrats would have fiery conflict and genuine power struggles—but both sides suppressed opposition to America’s true ruling class: the planters of the South, the Slave Power.
That is a great idea. We should be doing all we can to provide solutions for the dissolutioned at the moment
antimaterialist french anarchism is the best i’ve got to offer you. anything sufficiently materialist is too threatening and too much historical reading for treat demons that will make them feel uwu sad
We gotta get them hooked on materialism though. It’s far and away our strongest weapon bc once you know it tthe way you see the world totally changes and you can’t go back, your old worldview gets obliterated by understanding what’s happening. Somehow we’ve got to get them on materialism.
We should write an updated Communist Manifesto for 2024.
All of that “combine the rural and the urban” shit honestly looks silly today
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You don’t think so?
i would say it’s a greater contradiction than ever
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I’m serious down to help write new theory with other terminally online comrades.
Never fucking compromise with the liberals
what’s treat deamons?
It sort of means “Consumer brained”
I read it as folks who are blind to the ills of their ruling class because of their relative material comfort
We use “treats” as a catch all for conspicuous consumption in the west. So shlocky movies, expensive pickup trucks, oversized mcmansion houses, funco pops. It’s not just luxury goods, it’s people basing their whole view of the world on the “treats” they consume, to the point where it dominates their world view. A common accusation is that as long as they get their treats they’ll never engage in active resistance or even notice how the world works.