Iām sorry, if a politician sees the polls that say āDonāt back genocideā and still pledges to back genocide to pander to the mythical moderate conservative, why are people still obligated to vote for them? Because theyāre the lesser of two evils? Clearly they donāt give a flying fuck what their constituents want.
When they chided āwho else are you going to vote for?ā In 2016, they got a resoundingly clear answer: āNobody.ā But itās supposed to be different now? The Democrats need to step off the stage and progressives need to step up, because itās obvious they canāt win elections on being Republican Lite.
because now you have a āblank checkā for expanded genocide. congrats. that was a fucking masterful plan
there were 2 choicesā¦ you donāt get a 3rd choice - you can argue it was a choice for the future, but this round anyone who didnāt vote is partly responsible for the additional lives that will be lost, the rights curtailed, and the erosion of your due process
there was no third choice. you were always going to get kamala or trump: thatās reality. your third choice led to trump. congratulations; thatās going to be real good for your genocide
at least be honest about it: if you didnāt vote, or voted third party then your choice wasnāt to get that party in power; it was to send a message. that message is now at best going to be acted upon in 4 years time. your āthird choiceā realistically resulted in sacrificing palestinian, ukrainian, and american womenās lives in the hope that the democrats will be better next time. if thatās what you wanted, well, congrats i guess we will see if it workedā¦ but the cost for your choice is going to be incredibly high
The cost for my choice is the exact same as yours, and I think thatās what makes you right wingers the most upset we didnāt vote for female Reagan. You voted for genocide. You picked genocide. Willingly, happily. You made memes about how happy you were to vote for genocide. I didnāt. The cost is the same but this is the outcome you wanted; a genocidal American state.
There is always a third choice, or more. And if everyone, or really just ~1/3rd of Americans, makes it, that choice is viable. But no. Again you chose to be genocidal instead of of making the tough choice.
mate, i live in australia and i vote for our leftist partiesā¦ the fact that you call me āright wingā is absolutely laughable
i didnāt vote in your election, but your countriesā choices effect me significantly
YOUR choices that actually had any chance of having any effect were genocide or more genocide + erosion of human rights + fascismā¦ you chose to not vote against the latter, and thatās all there is to it. your inaction will cause lives to be lost and human rights to be eroded. you can say you voted 3rd party for some future effect, and thatās even an acceptable position! but donāt fucking act like that decision didnāt help trump come to power (because trump got elected; your choice contributed to that outcome) and more people in the next 4 years will absolutely die because of it
Iām sorry donāt you people have literal camps for sick and undesirable people?
That all aside you should try to get back to school, embrace local culture, refresh yourself. If youāre this easily swayed by foreign propaganda youāre practically an American. Who you vote for is who you vote for. This is a basic concept youāve failed to learn.
Iām sorry donāt you people have literal camps for sick and undesirable people?
iām gonna go ahead and say no and hedge my bet by saying i have no fucking idea what youāre talking about so you may be asking about something like the asylum processing centres, which are a necessary evil that yes we do particularly poorly but every country has - in fact i believe, not that itās a competition for āworstā, but your new president who you just let come to power implemented some of the worst camps for brown people and separated children from their parents, so glass houses and all that
Who you vote for is who you vote for. This is a basic concept youāve failed to learn.
whilst thatās true, itās irrelevantā¦ your vote for a 3rd party candidate in FPTP like the US has means you may as well have used your ballot as toilet paper
Yeah, there were two choices, and it might shock you to learn I voted for Harris, just like I voted for Clinton back in 2016. Iāve been pushing people to the polls ever since, Iāve done walk-and-knocks, Iāve gone to town halls. How do you think I know people are disgusted with Democrats?
Democrats continuously fail to establish rapport with their voter base because theyāre consumed with the idea of āreaching across the aisle,ā and theyāre reaching across into fascism. Is it any fucking wonder, then, that they canāt get votes? I guarantee less than one percent of Conservative voters changed their mind on Kamala because she promised to install Republicans in her cabinet. Democrats are trying to be the diet coke to Republican coke, and guess what? Coke drinkers donāt drink diet coke when coke is on the fucking menu, quelle fucking suprise.
First off, I voted for Harris, so you can put your āmoral standā nonsense away; I know damn well how important this shit is. Second, the genocide in Palestine was happening either way and Iāve spent time and money before and after the election on causes to help Palestinians, because thatās way more effective than one measly vote. Can you say the same?
Maybe direct this vitriol to your representatives instead of the people in this community?
Iām sorry, if a politician sees the polls that say āDonāt back genocideā and still pledges to back genocide to pander to the mythical moderate conservative, why are people still obligated to vote for them? Because theyāre the lesser of two evils? Clearly they donāt give a flying fuck what their constituents want.
When they chided āwho else are you going to vote for?ā In 2016, they got a resoundingly clear answer: āNobody.ā But itās supposed to be different now? The Democrats need to step off the stage and progressives need to step up, because itās obvious they canāt win elections on being Republican Lite.
because now you have a āblank checkā for expanded genocide. congrats. that was a fucking masterful plan
there were 2 choicesā¦ you donāt get a 3rd choice - you can argue it was a choice for the future, but this round anyone who didnāt vote is partly responsible for the additional lives that will be lost, the rights curtailed, and the erosion of your due process
Thatās nice dear, but there is always a third choice.
there was no third choice. you were always going to get kamala or trump: thatās reality. your third choice led to trump. congratulations; thatās going to be real good for your genocide
at least be honest about it: if you didnāt vote, or voted third party then your choice wasnāt to get that party in power; it was to send a message. that message is now at best going to be acted upon in 4 years time. your āthird choiceā realistically resulted in sacrificing palestinian, ukrainian, and american womenās lives in the hope that the democrats will be better next time. if thatās what you wanted, well, congrats i guess we will see if it workedā¦ but the cost for your choice is going to be incredibly high
The cost for my choice is the exact same as yours, and I think thatās what makes you right wingers the most upset we didnāt vote for female Reagan. You voted for genocide. You picked genocide. Willingly, happily. You made memes about how happy you were to vote for genocide. I didnāt. The cost is the same but this is the outcome you wanted; a genocidal American state.
There is always a third choice, or more. And if everyone, or really just ~1/3rd of Americans, makes it, that choice is viable. But no. Again you chose to be genocidal instead of of making the tough choice.
mate, i live in australia and i vote for our leftist partiesā¦ the fact that you call me āright wingā is absolutely laughable
i didnāt vote in your election, but your countriesā choices effect me significantly
YOUR choices that actually had any chance of having any effect were genocide or more genocide + erosion of human rights + fascismā¦ you chose to not vote against the latter, and thatās all there is to it. your inaction will cause lives to be lost and human rights to be eroded. you can say you voted 3rd party for some future effect, and thatās even an acceptable position! but donāt fucking act like that decision didnāt help trump come to power (because trump got elected; your choice contributed to that outcome) and more people in the next 4 years will absolutely die because of it
at least know it, admit it, and own it
Iām sorry donāt you people have literal camps for sick and undesirable people?
That all aside you should try to get back to school, embrace local culture, refresh yourself. If youāre this easily swayed by foreign propaganda youāre practically an American. Who you vote for is who you vote for. This is a basic concept youāve failed to learn.
iām gonna go ahead and say no and hedge my bet by saying i have no fucking idea what youāre talking about so you may be asking about something like the asylum processing centres, which are a necessary evil that yes we do particularly poorly but every country has - in fact i believe, not that itās a competition for āworstā, but your new president who you just let come to power implemented some of the worst camps for brown people and separated children from their parents, so glass houses and all that
whilst thatās true, itās irrelevantā¦ your vote for a 3rd party candidate in FPTP like the US has means you may as well have used your ballot as toilet paper
Yeah, there were two choices, and it might shock you to learn I voted for Harris, just like I voted for Clinton back in 2016. Iāve been pushing people to the polls ever since, Iāve done walk-and-knocks, Iāve gone to town halls. How do you think I know people are disgusted with Democrats?
Democrats continuously fail to establish rapport with their voter base because theyāre consumed with the idea of āreaching across the aisle,ā and theyāre reaching across into fascism. Is it any fucking wonder, then, that they canāt get votes? I guarantee less than one percent of Conservative voters changed their mind on Kamala because she promised to install Republicans in her cabinet. Democrats are trying to be the diet coke to Republican coke, and guess what? Coke drinkers donāt drink diet coke when coke is on the fucking menu, quelle fucking suprise.
So, now weāre looking at genocides in Gaza and Ukraine and the possibility of mass arrests in America.
Congratulations.
If people die because of your moral stand, itās not really that moral.
First off, I voted for Harris, so you can put your āmoral standā nonsense away; I know damn well how important this shit is. Second, the genocide in Palestine was happening either way and Iāve spent time and money before and after the election on causes to help Palestinians, because thatās way more effective than one measly vote. Can you say the same?
Maybe direct this vitriol to your representatives instead of the people in this community?
Maybe lead with that next time?