Because you now did it to yourself.

  • rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    You could be smart enough to say “fuck you” to the mainstream Dem candidates early in the campaign.

    The dumbass other half fears “the establishment” to the degree of going to dotards, coachfuckers and antivaxxers. Removing “the establishment” from your side could make them fear those more.

    So the part about dumb, dumb motherfuckers can be arguably addressed to almost all of you, my cowboy friends.

    Especially those saying that “the perfect is the enemy of the good” and people should vote for Harris instead of someone like Bernie or someone like Larry Lessig or who not.

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      You know who doesn’t have problems getting behind a candidate? The right wing. In a first past the post system, this is the best we can do until reforms occur. People have been calling for reforms, but the people who can make the changes are the ones who benefit from the system. So what would you have us do? The founding fathers made a really undemocratic system and the right wing exploits it to the fullest extent possible. Short of balkanization (which is probably coming soon), I’m really not sure what we could have done differently. Civil wars aren’t fun for anyone involved.

      So no my non-cowboy friend, it’s not all of us. Lots of people have fought and died and struggled and protested for a better system just for the powers that be to ignore them. 1/3rd of the country doesn’t vote. The other 1/3rd actively wants to put my family in a death camp, and 1/3rd of us do what we can with what we have.

      See you in Germany. So fucking done with the USA.

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        The founding fathers made a system reliant on most of the voters being literate landowners.

        It kinda worked in such a situation, because it was (among those voters) relatively egalitarian.

        It was also supported by functional free press.

        Now things have changed to the point where mass media are not very good, censorship is a real problem, even if it’s not by the government, and, ahem, political mechanisms have gotten a bit rusty even compared to 50s.

        Isn’t Canada closer?..

        Or French Guiana. It’s EU, and at the same time you get tropical beaches and wonderful nature.

        Or one of the Scandinavian countries.

        I mean, if you want Germany, then fine.

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          French Guiana.

          Moving closer to the equator is likely to be a bad time in the near future, what with climate change and all.

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            Parts with jungle are better than parts without though.

            OK, you are right. I just don’t like something about Germany.

            Being part Jewish and meeting arrogant Germans thinking that the whole Holocaust thing is something they are authoritative in because of being German.

            Being part Armenian and meeting arrogant Germans thinking that the whole Armenian genocide thing is not as important because all people in the ME are apes anyway.

            And somehow thinking their country is normal now, being friendly with Turkey and helping Israel to resolve their complex of inferiority in the worst way possible.

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              The humid jungles near the equator will have more wet bulb days than any other place, most likely.

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          Yeah exactly. This system was made for a completely different scenario, and is very easily exploitable by disinformation campaigns and fascisms with its populist campaigns in general.

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          I’m a German citizen as well. So Germany is what makes the most sense.

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              Yes, but my wife will not have citizenship of the EU until she stays in Germany for three years. Also, the salaries of other EU countries are not great.

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          Or French Guiana. It’s EU, and at the same time you get tropical beaches and wonderful nature.

          Silence! Je veux eviter la cohue!

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        Na you did that just fine but supporting harris do blindly she wouldn’t move her policy positions.

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          Yes I got people to sit at home by convincing them Harris is a genocide monster. All by myself. Just because I love being a huge piece of shit.

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            Na you did it by not supporting the easiest policy shift possible and actively acting like a hostile assholes to people losing their friends and family.

            Lets be very clear you had a choice between telling harris: no, its not okay for the US to give weapons to mass murder a people and shitting on a group of people who are actively losing friends and family in that genocide.

            Your choice: shit on the victims. Nice.

            Now apply this reasoning to each issue in this election. Lgbt+, abortion, Ukraine, inflation.

            Which single issue if it was swapped with gaza would you make the alternate choice? I suspect none of them. And that is why harris lost. Because the Democrats are assholes and unwilling to compromise. Even on basic human decency when it conflicts with their corporate masters.

            Gaza wa the easy issue.

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        1. I’m not an American voter.

        2. My bullshit before the election usually involved saying that you still have to vote for Harris.

        3. I’d say the media bullshit about the support of candidates, that communicated the wrong picture to Americans deciding whether to vote, has contributed much more than anything I ever wrote.

        4. No reason to panic. It’s just 4 more years, and then another election. Usually when someone promises you massacres and other bad things, you believe them, but not in this case - you’ve elected people who’ve never followed up on their promises.

        5. I live in Russia, so you had it coming for the older disingenuous bullshit about Russia being “just an imperfect democracy” and Putin being better than some imagined unholy alliance of communists and neo-Nazis.