let’s be real… it’s between cooked chicken found loose, unwrapped in a dumpster… and entirely raw chicken also from a dumpster… and covered in arsenic and cockroaches….
but harris/biden are still terrible, and directly have been supporting a genocide in palestine….
trump would do all that and much much worse… but they’re both horrible
Let’s talk about Harris’s policy other than Israel. What do you disagree with? It must be a considerable amount if you’re making this comparison, so let’s discuss it.
Small business economic injection?
Healthcare cost reductions?
Tax cuts for the lower/middle class, tax increases for the ultra-rich?
Social Security / Medicare boosts?
Decriminalizing marijuana?
Not implementing disastrous tariffs on foreign trade?
Honestly, I’m Absolutely convinced the rhetoric surrounding Palestine in this election is 100% astroturfing by any of the various groups that are incentivized to undermine not just a democratic candidate, but democracy as a whole
It’s just such a reductionist rhetorical standpoint that offers zero actual solutions to anything at all.
Completely with you here. “I know Trump would be worse for the issue I purport to be the most important to me, but I can’t bring myself to vote for the better of two realistic options because she’s not perfect, so I’m voting for Jill Stein.” It’s completely nonsensical, and honestly, I have zero respect for anyone who would actually knowingly make that decision.
i find it hard to talk about someone’s policies other than gleefully supporting and arming a genocide… everything else is small potatoes….
like when she pretended like protesters were antisemitic and not anti-genocide… released a long statement just completely ignoring why they were there….
biden bypassed congress to give them more weapons….
they also helped fight the genocide in Ukraine… trump would help the israel genocide, russia’s genocide… and then get pretty genocidal with latinos in america… so i’m puking while voting for harris… no need to convert me….
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it’s not just cereal i don’t like though
I’m glad you’re at least willing to see what’s worse. Maybe we’ll be pleasantly surprised by her policies regarding Isreal-- I did hear recently that only 17% of Israelis want Harris, vs (I think it was) 63% for Trump and his “finish the job” rhetoric. So if Israel hates her, that’s probably a good sign.
I disagree. It’s all small potatoes compared to climate policy; if we don’t address that, Israel, Palestine, Russia and Ukraine will be fucked, as will all the rest of us. Trump is markedly worse there, so really, it should be no contest.
Look, I get the outcry over this issue, but here’s the thing: Biden isn’t Kamala, and all of this rhetoric is acting like she is. Additionally, Congress passes the budgets that determine where this aid goes, not the president. Furthermore, it’s obviously a hotbutton issue on both sides and chances are she and her team of professionals analyzed the chances of she denounces Israel vs. doing what she’s doing, and determined they’d be better if she took this stance. While I agree that I’d rather see a stronger denouncement of Israel, really, what I actually want is for Trump to lose this election, and any course of action that has the greatest chance of making that happen, I am in favor of.
way to minimalize but although both sides suck, the drumpf one is infinitely worse….
but the alternative to drumpf isn’t yucky cereal….
it’s like 1 genocide vs 5 genocides… i’ll vote for 1, but only because it’s against the 5, not because it’s ok enough cereal, but because it’s not immediately deadly…
If you don’t like being called out for a both sides argument, doubling down on the both sides argument isn’t going to progress the conversation.
It only serves to illustrate your lack of intelligence and knowledge. You’re so focused on Palestine you don’t give a fuck out the war on women that is also taking place.
Anyone who’s main focus for this election is Palestine is best case scenario, a moron.
i don’t find arming a genocide to be a political “issue”…. it’s crimes against humanity….
to pretend like it’s some housekeeping issue is disingenuous, and you know it.
(i’m still voting for harris as the anti-trump vote)
Even seeing that issue as very important, how can you not see that not supporting Israel has been a total taboo in American politics for about as long as Israel has existed on both sides. I doubt any president or administration even has the political capital to change that.
let’s be real… it’s between cooked chicken found loose, unwrapped in a dumpster… and entirely raw chicken also from a dumpster… and covered in arsenic and cockroaches….
but harris/biden are still terrible, and directly have been supporting a genocide in palestine….
trump would do all that and much much worse… but they’re both horrible
Let’s talk about Harris’s policy other than Israel. What do you disagree with? It must be a considerable amount if you’re making this comparison, so let’s discuss it.
Honestly, I’m Absolutely convinced the rhetoric surrounding Palestine in this election is 100% astroturfing by any of the various groups that are incentivized to undermine not just a democratic candidate, but democracy as a whole
It’s just such a reductionist rhetorical standpoint that offers zero actual solutions to anything at all.
Completely with you here. “I know Trump would be worse for the issue I purport to be the most important to me, but I can’t bring myself to vote for the better of two realistic options because she’s not perfect, so I’m voting for Jill Stein.” It’s completely nonsensical, and honestly, I have zero respect for anyone who would actually knowingly make that decision.
But has Harris simulated oral sex in public?
If you want a candidate that represents you and will simulate oral sex in front of children, there’s only one candidate to pick.
My brother in Christ no one is defending Trump here. You can criticize Kamala without supporting Trump.
i find it hard to talk about someone’s policies other than gleefully supporting and arming a genocide… everything else is small potatoes….
like when she pretended like protesters were antisemitic and not anti-genocide… released a long statement just completely ignoring why they were there….
biden bypassed congress to give them more weapons….
they also helped fight the genocide in Ukraine… trump would help the israel genocide, russia’s genocide… and then get pretty genocidal with latinos in america… so i’m puking while voting for harris… no need to convert me….
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it’s not just cereal i don’t like though
I’m glad you’re at least willing to see what’s worse. Maybe we’ll be pleasantly surprised by her policies regarding Isreal-- I did hear recently that only 17% of Israelis want Harris, vs (I think it was) 63% for Trump and his “finish the job” rhetoric. So if Israel hates her, that’s probably a good sign.
I disagree. It’s all small potatoes compared to climate policy; if we don’t address that, Israel, Palestine, Russia and Ukraine will be fucked, as will all the rest of us. Trump is markedly worse there, so really, it should be no contest.
Look, I get the outcry over this issue, but here’s the thing: Biden isn’t Kamala, and all of this rhetoric is acting like she is. Additionally, Congress passes the budgets that determine where this aid goes, not the president. Furthermore, it’s obviously a hotbutton issue on both sides and chances are she and her team of professionals analyzed the chances of she denounces Israel vs. doing what she’s doing, and determined they’d be better if she took this stance. While I agree that I’d rather see a stronger denouncement of Israel, really, what I actually want is for Trump to lose this election, and any course of action that has the greatest chance of making that happen, I am in favor of.
Aka: BOTH SIDES!!!
way to minimalize but although both sides suck, the drumpf one is infinitely worse….
but the alternative to drumpf isn’t yucky cereal….
it’s like 1 genocide vs 5 genocides… i’ll vote for 1, but only because it’s against the 5, not because it’s ok enough cereal, but because it’s not immediately deadly…
If you don’t like being called out for a both sides argument, doubling down on the both sides argument isn’t going to progress the conversation.
It only serves to illustrate your lack of intelligence and knowledge. You’re so focused on Palestine you don’t give a fuck out the war on women that is also taking place.
Anyone who’s main focus for this election is Palestine is best case scenario, a moron.
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Uh huh, being against a genocide means “pROjeCtInG”
Your feverish focus on Palestine over all other issues, zealotry.
Name calling anyone that doesn’t have the same devotion to your primary issue is also zealotry.
Me pointing out both-sides-ism and you calling me a zealot, also zealotry and boorish.
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Open your eyes beyond your single issue of choice pease 😊
i don’t find arming a genocide to be a political “issue”…. it’s crimes against humanity….
to pretend like it’s some housekeeping issue is disingenuous, and you know it.
(i’m still voting for harris as the anti-trump vote)
Even seeing that issue as very important, how can you not see that not supporting Israel has been a total taboo in American politics for about as long as Israel has existed on both sides. I doubt any president or administration even has the political capital to change that.