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How is the archive link still blocking the article?? Can anyone post the text?
it’s crazy how we were right about everything the whole time
We’ve got the best crystal balls.
The tankies were right, yet again.
the burden of actually having a clue
“because all our Western partners want is for us to fight until the last Ukrainian.”
It’s like when you watch a movie and a character says the title of the movie
Roll credits already ffs
“This film is decicated to brave banderite fighters of Ukraine”
Nytimes admitting what we said word for word two years ago
Must be that time again
The burden of being a tankie, always correct.
I knew it! Western media and politicians have been lying about the possibility of defeating Russia all along.
They are either delusional or manipulative. In Russia’s advantage it is politically more stable long term than any Western government which could at any moment elect a government that doesn’t want to continue the war
But the real audience for the plan might be at home, some military analysts and diplomats say. Mr. Zelensky can use his hard sell — including a recent address to Parliament — to show Ukrainians that he has done all he can, prepare them for the possibility that Ukraine might have to make a deal and give Ukrainians a convenient scapegoat: the West.
Liberals gave so much money to Ukrainian Nazis, trained them to be serial killer drone pilots, and set them up to blame those same liberals for the war. Fighting the war to the last Ukrainian is self-preservation at this point.
Liberals did the same thing in Afghanistan and throughout the Middle East, they’re no stranger to this strategy
“Hmm I wonder if training and arming these fundamentalist reactionary jihadists could ever backfire if they decide they hate the decadent and sinful West”
if they decide they hate the decadent and sinful West
That wasn’t the motive, else they would have attacked Japan.
Plus, this is Arab media https://youtu.be/XcclXnr6UVU
Correct it isn’t the real reason, it’s blowback for imperialism. The quotes were me being a stupid liberal, sorry if that wasn’t clear
No problem. My sarcasm detector was broken.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
East/West Ukraine incoming?
I think a more likely scenario is that Russia will simply absorb the eastern part and then install a compliant regime in the west.
They will likely use the Crimean model in the east atleast. The west not sure. Theres a chance the west ends up being some sort of buffer neutral zone between EU and Russia.
Theres a chance the west ends up being some sort of buffer neutral zone between EU and Russia.
That would alo require installing compliant government. Last few decades proven that Russia can live with neutral or fencesitting neighbours but anything except prorussian cabinet would get couped or taken over fast.
Also possible that Russia would let Poland absorb it and make it their problem.
I highly doubt that Russia would be ok with a NATO nation taking over west ukraine. It would only happen if NATO nations forced it to be so.
I imagine it would depend how much of west Ukraine we’re talking about. It would do immense economic damage to Poland and likely create a lot of internal tensions. So, it would be destabilizing in the long run.
giving it to poland is basically giving the US free reign to fill it with military bases tho
I’m not sure this is more likely. It may happen, depending on what parties ending up winning elections in the West. But if the current governments remain in power I can’t see them allowing it to happen even if it meant WW3.
I think there are strong signs that the US is already pivoting away from Ukraine. It’s not their core interest, and they’re far more worried about China than Russia. There were two schools of thought in US. One said that they need to take on China directly, and the other that it would be better to break up Russia first and surround China from the west cutting it off from military support and resources that Russia affords. The latter camp won and that’s why the war in Ukraine started. The US miscalculated that Russia would be a relatively easy nut to crack, and then they could choke off China from all sides while plundering Russian resources in the process. RAND basically laid it all out in a paper they put out https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html
Now it’s becoming clear that Russia hasn’t been weakened, and that Ukraine will lose the war. So, US will leave Europe holding the bag while they move on to do fuckery in Asia. Meanwhile, Europe does not have the means to keep the war going on their own. So, Russia will be dictating terms in the end.