Half of Gen Z voters — and 1 in 4 U.S. voters overall — have lied to people close to them about who they’re voting for, according to the latest Axios Vibes survey by The Harris Poll.

The findings raise big questions about the limits and future of polling, which relies on voters giving responses reflecting their real-life political behavior.

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    22 days ago

    And why is it necessary to disclose who you’re voting for to do any of that? In fact I’d argue not disclosing who you vote for makes these conversations easier because you cant just instantly jump onto us vs them mentality and tune someone out before listening.

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      Because if you’re not voting for Harris, you’re supporting a racist, rapist, fascist felon who wants to use the national guard to murder me and people I care about. Pardon me for being curious.

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            They’re not ashamed, they just don’t want to deal with people like you. How do you intend on reaching people who feel the need to lie to you? How does fostering a climate where lying is necessary to protect their peace effect the already horrible political climate? Or are you also okay with your actions costing your candidate votes and worsening the political climate too?

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              I’m fully OK with fostering a climate that is hostile towards hate and ignorance. I’d prefer nobody be a bigot, but humanity is imperfect. Making bigots feel the need to hide their ignorance and hate is better than a climate where they feel emboldened to share and spread it.

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                Not every person who tunes you out is going to be a bigot. If you want to imagine that the only people who are upset with rhetoric like yours are bigots, don’t be surprised when only bigots engage you. You’re complaining about problems you yourself are furthering, plus tell me do you think alienating voters helps or hurts your candidate, because that’s what your rhetoric does. Don’t think your actions can’t influence people to stay home, you’re great at fostering apathy through alienation. Hope your okay with that too.

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                  Every person who supports Trump is a bigot. No exceptions. We’re well past the point of credible ignorance.

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                    And why do you think only Trump supporters are tired of your rhetoric? If you read the article you’d see the largest group among these kids are Democrats, theres also a huge number of independents. Do you think only republicans are tired of patronizing political zealots? Because if so I’d read the article again. Keep digging, but people like you are the reason these kids just lie and keep their day moving instead of engaging. You’re creating the silence you told me you blame for the deterioration of the system.

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                22 days ago

                Why? Has it not dawned on you that near half of the people lying about their votes are voting for Kamala, should they be ashamed too? Or do you only think Trump voters are lying?