I want to make this VERY clear. I am extremely progressive, way far left. Kamala Harris is the only sane choice, I’m voting for her. BUT we still have to try and get her to change bad policies like her promise to continue funding genocide. Apparently, that way of thinking will get you kicked out of certain echo chambers ran by corrupt mods like WrenFeathers and JonsJava. The first comment was in response to someone praising Biden like he doesn’t also have Palestinian blood on his hands. And I apparently always have to reiterate that Dildo Tramp is 1000x worse and might actually kill us all by accident or on purpose.

    • JonsJava@lemmy.worldEnglish
      62·
      23 hours ago

      I tried working with them, but they blocked me. I was investigating.

      They won’t see this, but I really was trying before I discovered I couldn’t communicate with them.

      I can’t help if I can’t talk to them.

      • Smith6826@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        21·
        9 hours ago

        Lies. I was banned from your cesspool before you sent the “friendly warning”. Then your other mod buddy took further steps to harrass me and went and cried to .world admins to get me banned from the instance for a false claim of PM abuse. I posted the PM messages here for everyone to see that is clearly a false accusation and just discrimination based on my views.

        • JonsJava@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          9 hours ago

          Also, before you blocked me, you replied to my comment in a DM, as you had been banned ( I was still trying to figure out why you’d been banned at that point)

          With respect, those words aren’t violating any rules. And if they get added to any rules that we can’t use those words, then that is extremely fascist by definition. Either way, I want nothing to do with your buddy. And the fact that this is even a thing that needs to be reviewed is part of the “crushing any voice of dissent against Isreal and their supporters”. I’m out

          I tried responding that I was investigating, and that yes, calling dissenters fascists is bring uncivil. People don’t become fascist because you call them that. Your attacks are reminiscent of Linkerbaan, who would call everybody that they disagreed with either a fascist or a Zionist. That’s a bullshit insult.

          • Smith6826@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            12·
            8 hours ago

            yes, calling dissenters fascists is bring uncivil. People don’t become fascist because you call them that. Your attacks are reminiscent of Linkerbaan, who would call everybody that they disagreed with either a fascist or a Zionist. That’s a bullshit insult.

            First off, I didn’t call anybody a fascist directly. Secondly the fact that you deem it uncivilized to call out fascism is a major problem. Mod abuse is also mods using the “be civil” rule to ban people according to their own personal agenda. You may not agree with me, but it’s not grounds for censorship and banning. Public forums are for free exchange of ideas, not banning people for using words you don’t like, especially when it’s not even profanity. (Not that profanity should be censored either)

            If you don’t want people calling others fascists, then put it explicity in the rules so everyone can see you have a problem with that, and what it implies having that as a rule.

            When do you think it’s ok to call people fascist or zionist, if not when the people referenced are directly tied to fascism and zionism? Rhetorical.

            • JonsJava@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              8 hours ago

              When they are a fascist or Zionist.

              Biden gave the terrorist state of Isreal $18 Billion in American tax dollars this year alone. That’s $13 Billion more in a year than the average of $5billion per year to zionist terrorists for the last 75 years. (Including Trump administration) Both sides are just different degrees of evil. One is more quiet about it, the other is overt. That is what the monopolized 2 party system is for. To keep the same 2 evil groups in power indefinitely, while giving The People an illusion of choice. Both are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich. The sooner people realize this, the sooner we can take real action that will make a lasting impact. There is no fixing this grossly corrupt, broken system from the inside and repeating the same bullshit every 4 years. Edit: to be clear, you should still vote Harris because it’s the lesser evil option in this fucked up circus. But denying reality makes you just as bad as air-headed trumpets. Both sides are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich, and we need to abolish this 2 party system, not make-up fantasies that one side is actually good. The downvoters are either Trump supporters and/or fascist. True leftists don’t downvote facts. One thing is for certain in this sub, there are fascists masquerading as leftists. Those who don’t know may want to look up “controlled opposition”. Denial of facts is for right wingers and the rest of the fascists. We progressives don’t do that. Nobody is debating the fact that Trump is 1000x worse and he also has and will keep funding isreal if elected again. That’s how you can tell fascists and genocide deniers/appologists are the downvoters here. Here to downvote the truth and voices of dissent. The lack of support from fellow progressives on what should be resounding support shows how groupthink downvoting works to suppress voices of dissent. AGAIN, I’m voting for Harris, but we have to keep protesting and pressuring her to change bad policies, like the promise to continue funding genocide. Trump was never an option. 3rd party is same as voting for Trump. Go fuck yourselves and have a nice day.

              Emphasis added

              If you think I edited this comment, feel free to look at the original in the mod logs

              This was my only issue, and again, I feel that a warning would have sufficed. Keep downvoting my comments, but that won’t make you less toxic.

              EDIT: struck through the part where I vented. That wasn’t right.

              • Smith6826@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                1·
                8 hours ago

                0 rules broken. There’s no “gotcha”.

                This was my only issue, and again, I feel that a warning would have sufficed. Keep downvoting my comments, but that won’t make you less toxic.

                I didn’t downvote your last one, but whatever.

                You want to talk about toxic to a guy who had his account banned from the community, then the entire .world instance specifically for sharing their views that a corrupt mod didn’t like, who then abused their power?

                No offence, but I don’t see you trying to make things right. Not that I want to deal with the corruption of Political Memes and .world anymore, anyways, but it’s the principal that matters. Ciao

        • JonsJava@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          9 hours ago

          I was working a report against you, and as I wrote my response, the other mod banned you. I tried reaching out to you, and you had blocked me.

          Once someone blocks me, I stop investigating, as I can’t work with them to resolve it.

          No lies here.

          • Smith6826@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            11·
            8 hours ago

            So one mod can have an argument then go postal with bans when it doesnt go their way, while the other hasn’t even had a chance to review anything or communicate with the other mod. Looks like some major issues at Politcal Memes. If you had reviewed it and found your co-mod completely wrong for the ban, then what?

            Either way, WrenFeathers and his actions are a reflection on Political Memes as a whole, especially the vindictivness and lying about the private messages to get me banned from the instance, and I want nothing to with a community ran by mod(s) who discriminate and abuse their position.

            • JonsJava@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              8 hours ago

              The issue is that you cut me out before I had a chance to respond, and now you’re calling me a corrupt mod.

              What should I have done, when any avenue to reach out to you was gone?

              Should you have been banned? No. A warning would have been enough, I think. And yes, a warning was justified. You had just said that anybody who down votes you is a fascist, when many people down vote people looking for a fight, and not just the message.

              But again, you closed off any possibility of me working with you, and went running here to call me corrupt.

              • Smith6826@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                2·
                8 hours ago

                Should you have been banned? No. A warning would have been enough, I think. And yes, a warning was justified. You had just said that anybody who down votes you is a fascist, when many people down vote people looking for a fight, and not just the message.

                I appreciate it, but it’s still shouldn’t even have been an issue suggesting people who disagreed must be fascist or zionist. I can be wrong there, but it’s not grounds for censorship.

                Look, it seems you have a more level head on your shoulders than your mate. Maybe have them removed if they discriminate, harass users and unjustly ban them not only from the community, but went further to get .world admins to ban me from the instance.

                • JonsJava@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  8 hours ago

                  I don’t have direct contact with the admins any longer. I was actually out of the house yesterday on a date day with my wife when this all went down, and was trying to help from my phone. I’m sure the mod team will have a discussion on this soon.