Whenever people are like oh we need to empathize w/ incels, care about their feelings blah blah, I just think about what Lundy Bancroft said about abusers.
They need to learn empathy, and this excessive focus on their feelings is a barrier to them learning empathy.
🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/iHateCogsci/status/1610409758120361984
But this is step 1 of “offering an alternative”: recognizing that it takes different skillsets/social conditions to get them well-adjusted, because for whatever reason they’re starting from a different psychological basis.
I agree that to some extent the whole idea of focusing on these guys is counterproductive. But focusing on them is not the same as making sure that our movement is equipped to deal with them effectively, without having to relive this generational moment over and over again.
They feel alienated from society because it feels unlivably complex, and they happen to fit enough heuristics of the power group that they feel entitled to deal with that complexity by violently maximizing their adherence to power.
The right takes advantage of this by a) being in power already, b) being the same kind of people, and c) happy to use these guys to further their own interests. So they offer the easy, accessible, lowest-common-denominator solution of just catering to that entitlement.
Of course “Be a good person” doesn’t effectively compete. But that doesn’t have to be the only narrative the left offers. We need the next step, a narrative that starts with “Be a good person” and builds it into a competitively epic cognitive reward mechanism.
I think the whole obsession with “finding the right one” is part of the problem. What they need is more flexibility to enter, move through, and leave communities without the goal of extracting a person from them into their patriarchal household. It’s crystalizing into a specific mold/role (or failing to) that causes them to get stuck where they end up with no way out, hung up on their failures. Which is why we see them come up with all these stereotypes like Chad, Stacey, the Woke, Groomers, etc. People having a healthy relationship with a community don’t assign themselves into these strict stereotypical groups that they have to define themselves by. They just exist as themselves.
Abusive husbands, hermits, cannon fodder, “bachelors”/brothel-goers