Mazda recently surprised customers by requiring them to sign up for a subscription in order to keep certain services. Now, notable right-to-repair advocate Louis Rossmann is calling out the brand.

It’s important to clarify that there are two very different types of remote start we’re talking about here. The first type is the one many people are familiar with where you use the key fob to start the vehicle. The second method involves using another device like a smartphone to start the car. In the latter, connected services do the heavy lifting.

Transition to paid services

What is wild is that Mazda used to offer the first option on the fob. Now, it only offers the second kind, where one starts the car via phone through its connected services for a $10 monthly subscription, which comes to $120 a year. Rossmann points out that one individual, Brandon Rorthweiler, developed a workaround in 2023 to enable remote start without Mazda’s subscription fees.

However, according to Ars Technica, Mazda filed a DMCA takedown notice to kill that open-source project. The company claimed it contained code that violated “[Mazda’s] copyright ownership” and used “certain Mazda information, including proprietary API information.”

  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    They all are. Your only option would be to buy an older car without connected services and hope that you never need another one.

    As much as I’m sure this answer will be hated, Tesla cars don’t require a subscription for basic remote services. What comes free is:

    • traffic aware navigation updates
    • OTA software updates mandated by recall
    • phone app access

    With the phone app there are zero regular features that require a monthly sub. Free things include:

    • HVAC controls
    • heated seats
    • charging stats and start/stop chargin
    • unlocking all doors, frunk and trunk
    • even changing radio/SiriusXM stations

    Tesla does have an optional monthly subscription but that gets you:

    • streaming radio
    • unlimited internet
    • traffic density notations on nav maps
    • satellite view in nav map

    However the car operates just fine without any of that optional stuff and therefor there’s no mandatory fee for regular functionality.

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      5 hours ago

      Oh noes, somebody said something positive about Tesla! Get 'em boys!

      Seriously though, I would like to see some legislation that made them offer connectivity free models. All the connectivity crap should be opt-in. If you don’t opt in they don’t connect the SIM card.

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        3 hours ago

        We don’t need “connectivity free models”, just give us a way to disable it.

        On my phone, I just pull down from the dropdown menu and toggle off whatever connectivity I don’t want on at the time. EZPZ.

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          59 minutes ago

          There will be financial repercussions with the car. They want to sell that data, if you’re going to deprive them of that, they’ll expect recompense.

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      6 hours ago

      Those things are free…for now….while they feel like it. There’s nothing stopping them from charging for that stuff when their stock price dips another 20%.

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      8 hours ago

      All very true but they’ll also charge you (1-time) to software-unlock your seat heaters, motor and battery.

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      7 hours ago

      Teslas unlimited Internet package is also super cheap at $100/year the last time I checked. Competitors are multiple times more expensive.