We’ve had some trouble recently with posts from aggregator links like Google Amp, MSN, and Yahoo.

We’re now requiring links go to the OG source, and not a conduit.

In an example like this, it can give the wrong attribution to the MBFC bot, and can give a more or less reliable rating than the original source, but it also makes it harder to run down duplicates.

So anything not linked to the original source, but is stuck on Google Amp, MSN, Yahoo, etc. will be removed.

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    2 days ago

    As someone who raised this issue, I want to thank the mods for addressing this. The MBFC bot aside, I think this will also cut down on dupes, as I’ve seen numerous times where an article was shared twice- once from the OG source and then another version from MSN or Yahoo news.

    And for users who want to check the source of something, it does make it easier to fact check for yourself.

    Who knows, it might even slow down certain profligate posters who obviously just take every link in a news aggregator and share it (and then brush off every comment with a “I didn’t write the article…) 😉

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      14 hours ago

      I don’t want to assume who you are referring to, but for me personally, I don’t think it’ll slow anyone down. Why would it? Posting is a simple cut-and-paste of web addy and article title. Takes exactly the same time regardless of source: just a few seconds.

      So it’s just as easy to post from original sources, but now not all people on Lemmy will be able to read the article because some sites paywall.

      I have lots of news subscriptions (I love political news), so not an issue for me personally, but I can see how it may frustrate some readers. But it doesn’t bother the person posting at all, because they’ve already read the article.

      I think the new rule is perfectly fine though, and I’m happy for anything that will remove some of the criticisms I see regarding false accusations of trying to hide sources.

      So I think you had a great idea and I’m happy they implemented it! Thank you! :)

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      2 days ago

      People usually link to sites like MSN and Yahoo because the content is no longer locked behind a paywall. 🤷‍♂️

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        Yep, that was a big reason. I subscribe to a few sites, but I realize not everyone does. And MSN links came up on my newsreader, but I have no problem just posting from direct sites. I do expect people will complain about the paywall though, but oh well.

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        2 days ago

        Many of the articles I’ve seen are not in fact behind a paywall but obviously YMMV

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            I said they were profligate in their posting, not spamming. Say, for instance, users with 1.6k posts in around 60 days. Personally I feel they have been spamming, but the mods think differently and that’s fine. However they are pretty universally regarded as posting and commenting to an unhealthy degree.

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              Lemmy is a small, but growing community that needs more content to compete with Reddit. Prolific posters are actually something to celebrate for helping the community grow. In my personal opinion.

              I actually wish there were more prolific posters and more posters in general.

              And of course, we can always block posters if we don’t want to view their content. :)

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                Wow, speak of the devil! Lemmy growing for the sake of growing just recreates Reddit. Every forum is dominated by a super minority of posters, a small minority of commenters, and a super majority of lurkers. Nothing has changed about that since the Usenet days you claim to be old enough to remember.

                Posts without thought or of low quality encourage people to go elsewhere. The answer is not more crap posted by more people, it’s quality posts from diverse users with healthy and good faith discussions. So basically the opposite of what you do with the volume and choice of articles you share, and your rampant attempts to stifle and distract from constructive discussions in the comments.

                Poorly sourced and written articles presenting issues without context are not only actively harmful to this community but harmful to the prospect of Lemmy and the fediverse as a whole. The fact that this is something you don’t recognize surprises me not at all.

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                    I mean, how could we tell if you’ve ever even read them as you refuse to discuss them or even talk about why you thought they were interesting enough to share?

                    Also, considering your frequent errors and comment editing and what you chose to share, I don’t believe we share equivalent standards on writing or journalistic quality.

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                It doesn’t need your posts, as evident by the massive amounts of downvotes your propaganda receives. No one is celebrating you.

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                    Ah, right, I left that off of my script notes! It’s one of your classics. I’ll be sure to keep that one in mind moving forward.

                    I, for one, am happy to see people treating your posted content the way they do: like spam and propaganda. If you keep it up, you’ll reach your next major milestone of 50,000 downvotes. Truly something to aspire to.