• Unruffled [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Update: Linkerbaan has now been permabanned from his home instance. I think the content of this post and his extensive modlog history more than justifies their decision. While I am sympathetic with linkerbaans position that the US government is complicit in the genocide in Gaza, he frequently made baseless accusations against others, abused the reporting system, and was extremely hostile to other users. He was given many second chances, and I commend the LW team for being so patient with him in general, especially given the level of abuse they were subjected to by this user.

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    I’m one of the mods there. We generally try to stay neutral unless someone posts blatant disinformation, or is not acting kind and is starting combative comment threads. You’ve done the latter a lot.

    Moreover, our bias is to let the reports and downvotes guide us. The people in c/videos have been complaining to us about your behavior for quite a while now, and they‘ve not been appreciating the content and comments you’ve been contributing.

    We’re a community of people. If you can’t participate constructively in that community, please find another community or create your own community. Lemmy is a federated system - you have options.

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      What an elaborate way to write ‘we’re trying to create a blue maga echo chamber no dissent allowed no matter how civil’.

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        Linkerbaan, you can’t force people to listen to your opinions. And you don’t have a right for your views to be platformed in every community either. Im quite sympathetic to your stated cause, as are many other mods, which is probably the only reason your LW account hasn’t been permanently banned tbh. But if you don’t bring anything to a community except a bad attitude and a well known reputation for trolling, name calling and bad faith accusations, then wtf do you expect to happen?

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          If calling out Genocide is crossing a red line for you I have bad news about your civility. I very rarely insult people unlike the Blue MAGA lemmyworlders. If I did they wouldn’t have to make up lies about me defending the usage of child soldiers.

          The projection from you liberals is top tier. Bad faith Genocide deniers calling others bad faith.

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            Just for the record:

            If calling out Genocide is crossing a red line for you I have bad news about your civility.

            I didn’t do that, I said I was sympathetic to your cause, so the exact opposite.

            I very rarely insult people unlike the Blue MAGA lemmyworlders

            I think the contradiction in this sentence speaks for itself.

            The projection from you liberals is top tier. Bad faith Genocide deniers calling others bad faith.

            Calling me a liberal genocide denier, when I’ve done no such thing. Sounds like good faith, sure.

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              It really is, I don’t know how often I’ve seen him attacking people who say trump is worse, and accusing them of being genocide supporters. I don’t think anyone who acts like that has any business accusing others of being MAGAs, it is insanely hypocritical.

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      If anything it’s a mistake to not ban them, their behavior hasn’t shown signs of changing. When it comes to people like this banning them is the best thing for the community, or even the instance/fediverse as a whole.

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        I was hoping they just acted a bit harshly because of their concerns about the matter at hand, but it seems that that was a mistake.

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          Mhhh yes you had to “swing your massive modhammer around pre-emtively” and taunt users who call out the Democratic party for supporting Genocide.

          Of course you cannot back up any claim about harrassing users either. In fact you are harasser.

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            Buddy you call almost anyone who disagree with you genocide supporters. You’re very much discrediting yourself with how much you throw it around, and that you do it to people who are clearly not genocide supporters. That’s why you are getting banned, turns out that accusing people of genocide support without merit isn’t taken kindly on many communities and also instances.

            Also you’re accusing this person, and probably the rest of us of harassing you, when we are simply responding to and addressing your posts and comments. This is an example of bad-faith accusations that get you banned from most communities, and indeed a few instances as well.

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              I call people denying Genocide Genocide supporters. That’s not much of a stretch for anyone who doesn’t support Genocide.

              The projection of Zionists knows no bounds.

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                The projection of Zionists knows no bounds.

                Don’t call random people Zionists when they’re not actually supporting Israeli imperialism and chauvinism.

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                  The user spams 50 paragraphs of insults and ad-hominems and this is the one you respond to?

                  The user dodges the only question whether Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are supporting Genocide.

                  “Anyone who disagrees with you is a Genocide supporter” turns into “Joe Biden and Kamala Harris don’t support Genocide” every time with these people.

                  Don’t call random people Zionists when they’re not actually supporting Israeli imperialism and chauvinism.

                  I would never do that.

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                You also call people who don’t want to vote for trump genocide supporters, claiming that they support joe biden doing genocide because they don’t want to vote for trump, a classic example of you calling people genocide supporters for not agreeing with you. You’re literally calling people in this thread right now Zionists because we’re pointing out that it is your bad behavior and bad faith accusations which got you banned from a majority of communities.

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                  Wait are you saying Joe Biden and Kamala Harris do not support Genocide?

                  Hope you have mod powers here to censor any replies else it’s going to get obvious which one of us is bad-faith very quickly.

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              No I didn’t forget Zionist Lemmy.World mods making up lies about me supporting child soldiers. I urge people to read that post.

              Haven’t forgotten about you banning me for calling out Kamala Harris for lying about Hamas raping women either.

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                All you do is lie to personally attack people. The sad thing is I side with your views with Palestine, but not your deceitful and hate filled approach.

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                  YDI.

                  Yeah, he’s done it to me too. They outright called me a liar in this comment thread when I pointed out their compete double standards when it comes to Israeli vs Russian war crimes. Just another unhinged tankie who only rants about the West while giving everyone else a free pass for war crimes. If someone is anti-genocide (like any decent person should be), but only when it comes to Israel and the US, then you’ve immediately lost the moral high ground imo.

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                  The sad thing is I side with your views with Palestine, but not your deceitful and hate filled approach.

                  You do not side with my views. Your side is Kamala Harris and Joe Biden which are perpetrating the Genocide. And you are even willing to ban users who call them out for spreading dehumanizing propaganda about Palestinians. Your side is denouncing the Houthi’s for standing up for Palestine and pretending that anyone supporting that is somehow an advocate for child soldiers.

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        Oh, come on. You know as well as anyone else why you get banned from so many communities and it’s not because you were “Calling out Genocide.” Trolling and bad faith arguments aren’t welcome in most communities.

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            I don’t know about any of that, I just know that you’re not welcome anywhere civil because you can’t act in a civil manner.

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              Weird I’m able to make a lot of posts outside of Lemmy.World’s Blue MAGA communities. They’re very popular.

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                Blue MAGA

                See? It’s fabrications like that that make people not take you seriously. That, and all the lies about whomever has the displeasure of debating you.

                Anytime anyone attempts to debate you in good faith you automatically jump to calling them genocidal Zionists. Any time someone shows any contempt for Trump you call them “Blue MAGA.” You don’t debate in good faith, constantly rage bait, troll, and your sealioning and gaslighting gets old pretty quick.

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    YDI.

    Also, I’m starting to suspect you do it on purpose. I mean, you’re constantly doing and saying things you know will be downvoted.

    I remember downvote farming as a hobby on Reddit; they even had a few subreddits with leaderboards. I never really understood the appeal but I just came up with a theory:

    I think it might be a fetish. Kind of like those people that like to be humiliated and/or punished. Is it the punishment and scorn that excites you?

    That being said, you definitely deserve all the bans you collect like trophies.

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    YDI and honestly CLM, them tolerating you being there is a tactical error as a moderator. Your reputation precedes you, it’s well known that you’ve very uncivil, hostile, and often engage in bad-faith discourse. I couldn’t blame most mods for banning you on sight, I couldn’t even blame most mods for banning you preemptively with an API request if they knew before. I can’t even blame many instance admins for banning you from their site, because your behavior is atrocious, and isn’t changing.

    Blahaj.zone modlog site ban

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        There are indeed API calls for banning users from communities. They’re not accessible in Lemmy-UI, they make you do it from a comment or post there, but you can do it from anywhere.

        Here’s the API call you use to do it: https://[instance url]/api/v3/community/ban_user

        And the body data you need, as well as some auth data specific to your session or account login not included here: `{“community_id”:[community ID],“person_id”:[User ID],“ban”:true,“remove_data”:false,“reason”:“[Ban reason]”}

        You can get User ID from a DM with the person, and you can get community ID by editing your community settings and taking a look at the request in the network tab of your Browser Dev tools.

        You can execute one of these by opening dev tools, going to Network tab, editing and saving community settings, then hit edit and resend request. Change the type from SET to POST then replace the API URL with the one here, and replace the body of the request with the one here with the data appropriately filled out, and when you hit send, it’ll ban the user from the community.

        I highly recommend community mods use this technique to deal with known bad actors before they infiltrate your community. Obviously one can go overboard and use it too much, but there are plenty of times it’s best to stop them before they join your community rather than after.

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            I think they just haven’t implemented it in UI yet. It’s a similar story with adding moderators, you have to add and remove them from comments as well. Though unlike the ban function Moderator management has been integrated in the photon UI, an alternate UI for Lemmy. That one doesn’t have the ability to manage banned users and add bans for any user though, my guess is they just haven’t added it yet there either.

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      Calling out Genocide and Apartheid is very bad faith. That’s why most of my bans are for made up reasons.

      I’m not banned from Blahaj either. Guess the lying continues.

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        You’re right, thank you for pointing out that discrepancy. I have reached out to ada about this issue of what seems to be a bug in how bans are handled in Lemmy so she can correct it because it is clear that she banned you for being a bigot but never unbanned you from their instance. I imagine this can be sorted out soon and you’ll be back to being banned from blahaj.zone in no time.

        Edit: Ada responded and your ban in blahaj.zone has been restored back to its original state, very sorry about the inconvenience. hopefully it won’t happen again.

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          Not sure what “bigotry” I have engaged in. I am subscribed only to 196@blahaj but I don’t post on Blahaj much. Maybe the mod is a fan of pinkwashing.

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            Oh no! The consequences of your actions! It can’t possibly be your own fault, can it?

            Noooooooooo….

            It’s other people.

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        You weren’t banned for calling out genocide, you were banned for calling everyone that disagrees with you a genocide supporter. It’s in the mod logs.

        It even states that you’re incapable of going 24 hours without doing so.

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      Also a clueless mod, if they understood the situation with this person they would’ve banned him on sight. His bad behavior doesn’t show any sign of changing so it would be a wise thing to do. Normally it’s not great to do but in cases where the person has a long history of hostility and bad behavior it makes sense.

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      I vote both YDI and CLM at the same time for that very reason. They deserve it but also this mod is clueless, because they should’ve banned him then and there. That’s a bit of a mistake.