Hi comrades, want to give you all an informal update on the discussions around the site’s misogyny problems that’ve been happening over the last several days. I wanna make sure you know that the admin/mod team has seen all of that discourse and we’ve been actively discussing solutions in the matrix mod chat. We’re taking this shit very seriously and acknowledge that we haven’t used a heavy enough hand on misogynistic rhetoric. As some of you saw we nuked that cheating thread from a couple weeks ago and handed out temp bans to the most egregious offenders. Idk how that was allowed to run it’s course but we apologize for that oversight. We’re going to do better.

We’ve come up with some ideas for how to improve this part of the site culture and we want to get suggestions from y’all as well, since the alarm was sounded on this by our beautiful c/traa posters to begin with. Our ideas so far include:

  1. A zero-tolerance policy towards any even remotely misogynistic/patriarchal posts or comments, as too much has slipped through the cracks on that, establishing a clear protocol for bans for violating rules against misogyny, and ideally tracking repeat offenders in a way that makes deciding a course of action easy when they reoffend.

  2. Uphold TC69 thought by starting up a book club (and hopefully more to follow) on feminist theory and encouraging mass participation, particularly from the he/him’s on the site. “The Will to Change” by bell hooks has been suggested by multiple people as a great starting point but please feel free to suggest any other works.

  3. Relaunching /c/menby with a trusted educated mod team and a specific focus on countering mainstream narratives about masculinity, relationships and sex that breed reactionary, patriarchal attitudes

  4. Encouraging [namely femme] participation in /c/womenby and taking steps to revitalize that sub as an excellent source of discussion on feminism and intersectionality

  5. Holding another mod drive to get more folks into mod positions in our communities who can help weed out reactionary attitudes

  6. Encouraging users to use the report button often on any post that seems even remotely sus, with the promise that no one’s going to be punished for “report abuse” for reporting posts in obvious good faith

Please let me know your thoughts on the above or any other ideas you have for making the site better, safer and more inclusive for our femme comrades. Once we’ve fully hammered out plans and updated policy we plan to make an announcement post highlighting these changes for the whole userbase. Thank you all for being here and being who you are feminism trans-heart

  • magi [null/void]@hexbear.netM
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    Thank you for saying this sneak, I present femme but I don’t see myself as any gender (I’m agender). I wouldn’t be posting in womenby because I don’t see myself as a woman, and I found it questionable having that plus menby it felt a bit strange seeing that split like that and back to the binary imo which I feel excludes me, I don’t think enbies should be in the gender box but that’s me. But I’ll continue to post in the trans mega as is the norm

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      I don’t think enbies should be in the gender box but that’s me

      No I hear you. When I first joined the site I did clinically think “Are the women and enbies grouped together because there are no women on this site and we’re trying to fill out the ranks?” but I try to engage with it in good faith (as you have to if you’re to engage with anything in hellworld)

      anyways I always appreciate your posts in trans mega <3

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        Why not have a masc/femme com instead? And maybe a separate enby com for every enby? I can understand some of the logic but speaking for myself I have a real problem with binary boxes… I also always engage with good faith here and I do try see the logic behind all posts.

        anyways I always appreciate your posts in trans mega <3

        As I’ve appreciated yours, you should post more btw ^^

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          Why not have a masc/femme com instead?

          Yeah this makes sense to me at least.

          And maybe a separate enby com for every enby?

          sicko-hexbear yes-hahaha-yes-l

          you should post more btw ^^

          Aww thanks, I appreciate you saying that. I’ve been pretty burnt out/depressed and just kinda reverted to doing a lot of unhealthy coping irl, as well as lurking & avoiding trans mega on hexbear. Good news is I think I’m somewhat on the mend, so hopefully I’ll do some more posting soon.

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            28 days ago

            Burn out can be tough, I hope you come through that soon and feel a little weight lifted at least. Looking forward to seeing you post when you’re feeling better meow-hug

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          Femme refers to a type of lesbian but is now also being used by some to describe non-lesbian gender. Personally I’d rather not take a term already used by lesbians.

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            I do think names that aren’t part of the binary are the way to go those were just off the top of my head going off presentation but something more fiiting would be good.

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            “Femme” has a long history in the trans community too, particularly “en femme,” being used historically by part-timers when they wished to specify their expression for a given situation. E.G. “I went to the store en femme the other day.”

            But I do agree that in this specific scenario on hexbear, that “fem” with that spelling makes more sense.

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          I’d add that enby shpuld be explicitly allowed in any of these spaces since enby can include people who sometimes touch on the binary

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            Well as I’ve already stated I’m an agender non binary person and I agrree that people present however they wish. I present femme but I’m not a woman. I’m not calling for segregation I was speaking as someone who sits outside the binary. My suggestion was based on presentation and moving away from the descriptor for non binary people. I agree that the spaces should be for everyone but as I sit outside the binary I feel it excludes me in it’s current naming scheme.

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        Womenby and menby were created in the beginning of the site four years ago and I’m not sure what the reasoning was. Womenby was reopened a few months ago so there would be a place for feminist discussion while also allowing anything that would have been allowed before it was locked as well. To be honest, any name is going to have issues. zoomerleninist and I will work on a better sidebar in the next few days.