• SeattleRain@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    They don’t need to stop. What they should do is adopt progressive policies that will excite the base. Number #1 would be stopping all arms sales to Israel.

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      24 days ago

      Oh this again.

      K the Israel thing isn’t going to happen. It’s fucked up, I know.

      Anyway, that’s not what we were talking about. We were talking about money influencing politics. That’s what needs to stop.

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        24 days ago

        You’re only flippant about Israel because you’re confident Harris will win. I’m going to laugh at all the liberals if Trump wins a second time because you didn’t take the concerns of the youth vote seriously and thought you could appeal to enough moderate Republicans.

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          People who give a shit about Palestine (and I find it weird you never actually used the word Palestine) will not take the course of action that will make things significantly worse for the people in Palestine.

          The people who do nothing about a situation are still better than the people who want to make it so much worse.

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            24 days ago

            How is not voting for the perpetuators of genocide “taking the course of action that will male things significantly worse”.

            Do you understand what genocide is? It really doesn’t get any worse.

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              24 days ago

              The current American government is not actively involved in the bombing and is at least paying lip service to “this is bad and should stop”.

              Trump is on record saying they should carpet bomb the whole area and be done with it.

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                23 days ago

                The current American government is not actively involved in the bombing

                This is a lie.

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                24 days ago

                It is, the US could stop Israel today by stopping aid and arms sales. Israel is an American colony.

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                  24 days ago

                  And the US could make things worse by reducing what limited restrictions exist on how those arms are used. Guess what will happen if Trump becomes president?

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      24 days ago

      The 2 party system forces politicians to do 1 of 2 things:

      1. Lie to and manipulate uneducated voters into thinking they’re the best option.
      2. Only enact middle of the road policies everyone likes to get voters in the middle to swing the vote in their favor.

      Our two party system is too entrenched to ever pass laws to remove itself, thus this will always be how politics works in the US. We should all be focused on some form of multiple choice voting like ranked choice if we ever want something different than the above, but I see no reality where the dems and gop come together and dilute their own power by making this a reality.

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      24 days ago

      Jesus Christ, this guy is going for Gold in the 1500 meter Moving Goalposts Sprint.

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      24 days ago

      You egg. A far left candidate would lose to Trump so hard that the climate would be forced to turn into magma without any more help. Elections are about choosing the better of two options. Nobody us going to put up a candidate you agree with on everything: no such candidate exists.

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        24 days ago

        Could we at least get a candidate who agrees with us on anything? They don’t even have to mean it; Obama was wildly successful because he made promises he had no intention of keeping.