Why not both? Reuters is publishing this for the clicks. Based on the OP’s history of posts and most especially of comments, we’re all well aware of their agenda and lack of good faith engagement (he’s just coming off a three day ban for trolling).
I’ve been banned multiple times for ( misinformation, trolling, spam, etc.) when I was doing none of those. Once. Once, I was banned for concern trolling, because I didn’t know what I was doing. That one was fair. The others were arbitrary and hypocritical, depending on the moderators mood. I’ve been called a bot, a shill, a Russian actor, a Chinese actor, a Trump supporter, pretty much everything. If you don’t think like the hive mind, you’re a target. Which is fine. But remember, if everyone thinks alike this becomes an awfully boring experience.
Oh, I’m well aware. The difference is that account had basically just as many posts and almost half the comments you made - and he’s been here for two months and you’ve been around for at least a year. If he just posted his articles and made a sane amount of comments that weren’t constantly trolling, he’d have a lot easier time, but he literally goes out of his way to be disruptive in the comments
Dude - again with the reading comprehension. <sigh>
Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassmentthat consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity
This community sees a difference between trolling and sealioning. Mod log says I was banned for sealioning. They are the ones who break it down to whatever they want. Their community, their rules. Check the mod log for yourself: https://lemmy.world/modlog/1252
Depends on the mod, sometimes it is very specific (“sealioning”, “civility”, “trolling”) and sometimes it’s more general (i.e. “rule 4”, “rule 3”). As you well know as all those examples above are from the explanations of your removed comments.
And it’s fairly rich for you to speak on behalf of the community. But your semantic games aside, your ban was for a form of trolling. That’s a factual and true statement not up for debate. You can either move forward from it or not, but you can’t pretend it didn’t happen.
My ban reason says “sealioning” and not “trolling.” If they wanted to ban me for “trolling” they could have said “trolling.”
If you wanna think both are exactly the same, then have at it. But they have different names. I stated the facts. I didn’t write the rules of this community, so feel free to take that up with the mods.
I haven’t pretended anything. The modlog is public. Feel free to look at it and see for yourself. Thank you!
@jordanlund@lemmy.world Very sorry to @ you, but it seems that UniversalMonk isn’t aware that he was banned for a form of trolling. Could you clarify for him, as he’s claiming that because his ban was for “sealioning” and not “trolling”, that’s somehow different. TIA
Well you are certainly free to say that now if you want to.
But I will keep saying that I was banned for “sealioning” because that’s what the modlog says. I fully expect you to jump in every time I say it, to update with your thoughts.
Because I can see that it’s very very important to you. So I totally support you believing and saying whatever you wish.
And I respect the mods, but I disagree with them. And that’s fine. It’s their community, their rules. I have no hard feelings about it.
This community sees a difference between trolling and sealioning. Mod log says I was banned for sealioning. They are the ones that break it down to whatever they want. Their community, their rules.
Check the mod log for yourself: https://lemmy.world/modlog/1252
If this poster didn’t take our feedback personally, it’d go to its special little corner of Lemmy and post all it wants there, because obviously the community here doesn’t like this poster, and finally, the moderation team is saying they’ve had enough of its shit.
It’s here because it really wants to ‘show us up’, posting incendiary topics, needling posters, pushing this meme that Trump would be better than Harris, and constantly egging on commentor after commentor.
If this poster didn’t take our feedback personally, it’d go to its special little corner of Lemmy and post all it wants there
I have several communities I created and mod. So I do post all I want there. Thank you!
I don’t know what meme you are referring to, as this is a Reuters article. And I posted it because I found it interesting. That’s it.
If you’re that concerned with what they report on and write, then reach out to Reuters and make your thoughts known. You are in charge of your own voice, friend! Thank you!
What did you find interesting about the article? I found it very interesting how Jill Stein only had 100 supporters at her last rally. She’s really making moves!
And yet you keep replying to me to explain more about yourself and your intentions. It seems like some part of you just has to explain, but not the parts that actually matter.
Reuters publishes an article across its newswire. Lemmy user reposts it. Somehow, the Lemmy user is a bad actor, not Reuters .
Why not both? Reuters is publishing this for the clicks. Based on the OP’s history of posts and most especially of comments, we’re all well aware of their agenda and lack of good faith engagement (he’s just coming off a three day ban for trolling).
I’ve been banned multiple times for ( misinformation, trolling, spam, etc.) when I was doing none of those. Once. Once, I was banned for concern trolling, because I didn’t know what I was doing. That one was fair. The others were arbitrary and hypocritical, depending on the moderators mood. I’ve been called a bot, a shill, a Russian actor, a Chinese actor, a Trump supporter, pretty much everything. If you don’t think like the hive mind, you’re a target. Which is fine. But remember, if everyone thinks alike this becomes an awfully boring experience.
Oh, I’m well aware. The difference is that account had basically just as many posts and almost half the comments you made - and he’s been here for two months and you’ve been around for at least a year. If he just posted his articles and made a sane amount of comments that weren’t constantly trolling, he’d have a lot easier time, but he literally goes out of his way to be disruptive in the comments
My 3 day ban was for sealioning. And I didn’t even know what that was before I heard about it from you, here on Lemmy.
Dude - again with the reading comprehension. <sigh>
Source
This community sees a difference between trolling and sealioning. Mod log says I was banned for sealioning. They are the ones who break it down to whatever they want. Their community, their rules. Check the mod log for yourself: https://lemmy.world/modlog/1252
Thank you!
Depends on the mod, sometimes it is very specific (“sealioning”, “civility”, “trolling”) and sometimes it’s more general (i.e. “rule 4”, “rule 3”). As you well know as all those examples above are from the explanations of your removed comments.
And it’s fairly rich for you to speak on behalf of the community. But your semantic games aside, your ban was for a form of trolling. That’s a factual and true statement not up for debate. You can either move forward from it or not, but you can’t pretend it didn’t happen.
My ban reason says “sealioning” and not “trolling.” If they wanted to ban me for “trolling” they could have said “trolling.”
If you wanna think both are exactly the same, then have at it. But they have different names. I stated the facts. I didn’t write the rules of this community, so feel free to take that up with the mods.
I haven’t pretended anything. The modlog is public. Feel free to look at it and see for yourself. Thank you!
All sealioning is trolling but not all trolling is sealioning. ;)
@jordanlund@lemmy.world Very sorry to @ you, but it seems that UniversalMonk isn’t aware that he was banned for a form of trolling. Could you clarify for him, as he’s claiming that because his ban was for “sealioning” and not “trolling”, that’s somehow different. TIA
Now that you have a response from a mod on the fact you were indeed banned for trolling, we’re good, right?
Well you are certainly free to say that now if you want to.
But I will keep saying that I was banned for “sealioning” because that’s what the modlog says. I fully expect you to jump in every time I say it, to update with your thoughts.
Because I can see that it’s very very important to you. So I totally support you believing and saying whatever you wish.
And I respect the mods, but I disagree with them. And that’s fine. It’s their community, their rules. I have no hard feelings about it.
And it won’t stop me from posting. Thank you!
“it wasn’t for trolling. It was for trolling”. Comprehension isn’t your strong suit, I see.
This community sees a difference between trolling and sealioning. Mod log says I was banned for sealioning. They are the ones that break it down to whatever they want. Their community, their rules. Check the mod log for yourself: https://lemmy.world/modlog/1252
Thank you!
This is the second time you’ve copy and pasted this exact statement.
Did you spend your three day holiday writing up new spam comments to continue to try to rile up this community?
Sealioning is a type of trolling, as you have already been told. I see another sealioning ban in your future, you’re literally doing it right now.
My ban reason said “sealioning.” Other people have been banned for “trolling.” I didn’t make up the mod rules. Thank you!
sealioning intensifies
Please bring it up to the mods attention if you feel that is what is happening in our conversation. They are very responsive.
I invite you to look at this user’s history.
Me too! I invite him to look at my history.
Yeah, people get pretty mad about it. I don’t take any of it personally. :)
If this poster didn’t take our feedback personally, it’d go to its special little corner of Lemmy and post all it wants there, because obviously the community here doesn’t like this poster, and finally, the moderation team is saying they’ve had enough of its shit.
It’s here because it really wants to ‘show us up’, posting incendiary topics, needling posters, pushing this meme that Trump would be better than Harris, and constantly egging on commentor after commentor.
I have several communities I created and mod. So I do post all I want there. Thank you!
I don’t know what meme you are referring to, as this is a Reuters article. And I posted it because I found it interesting. That’s it.
If you’re that concerned with what they report on and write, then reach out to Reuters and make your thoughts known. You are in charge of your own voice, friend! Thank you!
What did you find interesting about the article? I found it very interesting how Jill Stein only had 100 supporters at her last rally. She’s really making moves!
Well since she only had 100 supporters then you have nothing to be worried or angry about! So all good!
Oh, so you didn’t find anything in the article interesting?
I don’t have to explain anything to you. Thank you!
And yet you keep replying to me to explain more about yourself and your intentions. It seems like some part of you just has to explain, but not the parts that actually matter.