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    Largest prison population both in absolute size AND per capita. Also, random fact, their constitution allows prisoners to be forced into slave labour. Also, another random fact, their prisons are run for profit. None of these facts are related of course!

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      Next you’re going to tell me that these for-profit prisons lobby the government for harsher prison sentences for things like cannabis possession.

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      Not to nitpick but not ALL prisons in the US are for-profit. They should be illegal though.

      Fun fact - other countries that have for-profit prisons include the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Chile, Jamaica, Japan, Mexico, Peru, South Africa, South Korea and Thailand.

      This won’t do much since most of these prisons operate under state jurisdiction, but in 2021, President Joe Biden issued an executive order to stop the United States Department of Justice from renewing further contracts with private prisons.

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        True, however there are bs for-profit elements to even the non-for-profit prisons. Predatory costs to calling / commissary / etc. that still benefit companies when the US imprisons more people.

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        Listen I live in the USA, but if thats your best pushback to all those facts - should tell you what a dire state we are in. And prisons that aren’t for profit still send out prisoners to for-profit industries to work, so it’s kind of a moot point.

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    Reminder that the US have never abolished slavery for prisoners and have one of the largest slave population in the world.

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      Yep… And every time there’s an employment issue for the agricultural industry, they whip out the prisoners…

      However to the prisoner’s credit: They do an absolutely terrible job at whatever it is they’re doing.

      Why? What are they going to do… Fire you? Jail you? You have no incentive at all to do the job well as a prisoner.

      Bonus is by doing a horrific job it makes employers less likely to actually request prison workforces.

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    Nice to see that even here - a shitposting forum - whenever anybody posts anything negative about America, yanks can’t handle it.

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      I love how it’s full of people whining about having left reddit to escape this shit like bruh this is the fediverse

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    And potentially somewhere around half of that population is in there for non-violent crimes, with alot of inmates in for drug offenses, it’s absolutely ridiculous. Focus on the people that need to be in prisons, the violent sociopaths, stop trying to turn more people into criminals.

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      -be the “first in the world” -everywhere you go yell “USA! USA! USA!” -sparking people’s curiosity and they look into your garden -they find a dystopian horror show, a land where billionaires are kings, millions deprived of liberty, hundred millions depraved of healthcare, an ever increasing tumour of fascists group that wish for some women and minorities to have fewer rights

      -ohshit.jpg

      You can’t have the biggest running circus without everyone starring and complaining and debating.

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        Tell me you’ve learned everything you know about the US from 13 year olds online without telling me you learned everything you know from 13 year olds online.

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          he’s not wrong though. like, the mass shooting yesterday was something like the 340th so far this year? the place is fucking nuts

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              hmmm so what, only like 20 then? you’re right, that’s absolutely an acceptable amount of mass shootings in the first half of the year.

              totally normal and something every country experiences. my bad.

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                And of those remaining “only like 20”, how many were random acts of violence?

                We’re so close to getting to the infinitesimally small statistical likelihood of this happening.

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    How can America have 25% of the world’s prison population of the entire country doesn’t make up even 10% of the world’s population?

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      I have a bag and in it are 100 coloured tokens. 90 are black and 10 are red. What percentage of tokens are red? 10 out of 100, which is 10%.

      Now I pull two tokens at random. In my hand is 1 red token and 1 black token. I can say red tokens make up 50% of the tokens in my hand. But wait? How can the red tokens make up 50% of the tokens in my hand if they only make up 10% of all the tokens in the bag?

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      Well see, that’s kinda the point of the post.

      We’re “the land of the free” but also the land of the most non-free people.