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    from this post (archive)

    App developers think thatā€™s a bogus argument. Mr. Bier told me that data he had seen from start-ups he advised suggested that contact sharing had dropped significantly since the iOS 18 changes went into effect, and that for some apps, the number of users sharing 10 or fewer contacts had increased as much as 25 percent.

    aww, does the widdle appā€™s business model collapse completely once it canā€™t harvest data? how sad

    this reinforces a suspicion that Iā€™ve had for a while: the only reason most people put up with any of this shit is because itā€™s an all or nothing choice and they donā€™t know the full impact (because itā€™s intentionally obscured). the moment you give them an overt choice that makes them think about it, turns out most are actually not fine with the state of affairs

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      @froztbyte @jwz Not the biggest Apple fan, but you got to give them credit: with privacy changes in their OSs, they regularly expose all the predatory practices lots of social media companies are running on.

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          That has been Appleā€™s model for a long time. Privacy restrictions for thee in my walled garden, but I am the benevolent overlord that sees all.

          Still, in the current system Apple is the only thing holding back the floodgates? If there was no Apple in the committee to tell Google to go fuck themselves on their insane browser proposals weā€™d all be stuck in the all-encompassing Google walled garden. Itā€™s better for us to have two monarchs battling it out than one insane absolutist.

          I have no idea what could be done to break this walled bullshit altogether, though, much less what any of us individually could do. Like a completely open-source (both software and hardware) smartphone that is actually usable and multiple bank robberies to finance marketing and sales for it?

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            @fleg @froztbyte @jwz Yes, the ā€œOnlyā€ allowable SMS app which also happens to replace SMS with rich and secure instant messaging, as long as you own an Apple device.
            I believe Apple play the Privacy card as itā€™s their best excuse to reduce intraoperatively and maintain their lockin/walled garden under the disguise of ā€œwe care about your privacyā€ (and donā€™t want to compete on features, UX an especially price)

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      @froztbyte @blakestacey

      There are so many features of modern applications and platforms that I have to wonder why anybody would have thought it was a good idea, this is just one of them. Sharing your contacts shouldnā€™t even be an option. As somebody else in this thread put it, itā€™s not your data.

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      @froztbyte exactly. I resisted for years using WhatsApp because it wouldnā€™t even run without full access to your address book (this has now changed). I mean, I have client contacts on my phone, I (and they) donā€™t want to share them with a random social network that will probably resell them. Also a dodgy legal situation, esp. re GDPR: those people in your address book didnā€™t give you permission to share their contacts with a 3rd party company.