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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)
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aww, does the widdle appās business model collapse completely once it canāt harvest data? how sad
this reinforces a suspicion that Iāve had for a while: the only reason most people put up with any of this shit is because itās an all or nothing choice and they donāt know the full impact (because itās intentionally obscured). the moment you give them an overt choice that makes them think about it, turns out most are actually not fine with the state of affairs
@froztbyte @jwz Not the biggest Apple fan, but you got to give them credit: with privacy changes in their OSs, they regularly expose all the predatory practices lots of social media companies are running on.
@fleg @froztbyte @jwz Thereās also the possibility that Apple is doing this for themselves, for example, I bet iMessage still has access to all contacts?
That has been Appleās model for a long time. Privacy restrictions for thee in my walled garden, but I am the benevolent overlord that sees all.
Still, in the current system Apple is the only thing holding back the floodgates? If there was no Apple in the committee to tell Google to go fuck themselves on their insane browser proposals weād all be stuck in the all-encompassing Google walled garden. Itās better for us to have two monarchs battling it out than one insane absolutist.
I have no idea what could be done to break this walled bullshit altogether, though, much less what any of us individually could do. Like a completely open-source (both software and hardware) smartphone that is actually usable and multiple bank robberies to finance marketing and sales for it?
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@bullspit @froztbyte @jwz Well, itās the āSMSā-app on iOS, so it should have access to the contacts?
I believe they made their bet on privacy (since competing on features, UX and especially price is a loosing game).
@fleg @froztbyte @jwz Yes, the āOnlyā allowable SMS app which also happens to replace SMS with rich and secure instant messaging, as long as you own an Apple device.
I believe Apple play the Privacy card as itās their best excuse to reduce intraoperatively and maintain their lockin/walled garden under the disguise of āwe care about your privacyā (and donāt want to compete on features, UX an especially price)
@bullspit @fleg @froztbyte @jwz Thatās not the only reason: Apple is still very largely a hardware manufacturer, and given that Android is a freebie *from an advertising company that wants to harvest everyoneās personal data* it was an easy way for Apple to differentiate themselves from the rest of the smartphone duopoly.
@bullspit @froztbyte @jwz Agreed. Letās see what the EU will do about that.
@froztbyte @blakestacey
There are so many features of modern applications and platforms that I have to wonder why anybody would have thought it was a good idea, this is just one of them. Sharing your contacts shouldnāt even be an option. As somebody else in this thread put it, itās not your data.
I doubt it, unfortunately.
sickos yes energy if true, sigh
@froztbyte exactly. I resisted for years using WhatsApp because it wouldnāt even run without full access to your address book (this has now changed). I mean, I have client contacts on my phone, I (and they) donāt want to share them with a random social network that will probably resell them. Also a dodgy legal situation, esp. re GDPR: those people in your address book didnāt give you permission to share their contacts with a 3rd party company.
@froztbyte @blakestacey
Let me play worldās saddest songā¦
@froztbyte Iām so unsympathetic to that notion.
Also, literally zero of my friends here came via my phoneās contacts.
@froztbyte @blakestacey they fat-finger it and regret it later
wut
@froztbyte @blakestacey I really need to get on the apple ecosystem