• Cypher@lemmy.worldEnglish
    592·
    1 month ago

    Different groups also went to war with each other, which is much more interesting than the fallacious claim that ‘they all got along’.

    • bamfic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      47·
      1 month ago

      I do not understand the need to whitewash (hah!) indigenous history to erase wars and conflict. Humans fight each other, and indigenous humans are human just like white humans.

      What they didn’t do is war at the scale that white people have done. That’s the innovation.

      • niktemadur@lemmy.worldEnglish
        131·
        1 month ago

        the need to whitewash (hah!) indigenous history to erase wars and conflict

        “The noble savage” myth thing rearing its’ ugly head again, not too different than “only aliens could have built the pyramids/Machu Pichu/the Moai”.

        I wonder why they never say the same thing about the Parthenon, or the Great Wall of China, or so many huge structures in India. Some may be a little more recent, sure, but it’s all still about lifting pretty big rocks.

        • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          10·
          1 month ago

          “The noble savage” myth thing rearing its’ ugly head again, not too different than "only aliens could have built the pyramids/Machu Pichu/the Moai.

          It’s very sad. As someone who is deeply interested in the reasoning and behaviors of cultures at war, how they justify themselves, how they justify their actions, their policies and dispositions, it always upsets me when I see the notion that everyone except white folk, or by some of the more slightly-aware advocates, everyone except complex settled societies, lived in peace and harmony. But it’s just another projection of moral judgement on an issue that shouldn’t have it. Other cultures are not fables for you to teach your own rotted society, where the children no longer respect their elders and everyone is writing a book starting a podcast; they’re unique and multifaceted societies that deserve accurate study in their own right.

          Pre-state societies are often very violent, which is part of the reason why examining their tools for conflict resolution is so important. With weak centralized decision-making structures (like a state or commune-esque protostate), people have to get creative, and it’s very fascinating.

              • Danquebec@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                2·
                1 month ago

                I’m aware. It’s hard for me to navigate anthropology though. I can find some info on the Web, but I don’t really know what to look for, with books.

                • RedAggroBest@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  2·
                  1 month ago

                  Helps to know it’s divided into 4 sub-diciplines: Physical Anthro, Cultural Anthro, Archeology, and Linguistics. Each of these would approach the various questions through their own lense, finding the one that matches your topic interest best. You’re probably gonna want to look for things regarding cultural anthro, since that’s gonna handle the “why” of war more directly

      • awwwyissss@lemm.eeEnglish
        53·
        1 month ago

        Yes, but that’s not good propaganda which is 95% of the reason the disinformation hub Hexbear exists.

        • a Kendrick fan@lemmy.mlEnglish
          32·
          1 month ago

          a segment of lemmy loves to look down condescendingly on folks from .ml and hexbear

          two quick questions though, how did a discuss on Australia turn into you accusing hexbear users? and what’s your .world alt?

          • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
            1·
            1 month ago

            Might be because the image is a Hexbear link, though this is probably one of the least objectionable things I’ve ever seen from Hexbear.

      • superkret@feddit.orgEnglish
        61·
        1 month ago

        Technically, most of that is pre-history, since history is defined as the written record of what happened in the past.

        • Microw@lemm.eeOPEnglish
          4·
          1 month ago

          Which is a pretty stupid definition that lots of historians nowadays dont really agree with anymore

      • uservoid1@lemmy.worldEnglish
        71·
        1 month ago

        Was easier for me to look for a readable version than to strain my eyes.

        Oddly, the numbers in the 9th and 10th panels are different between the cartoonist’s tumblr (my link) and facebook (op image) versions.

    • MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      71·
      1 month ago

      I’m pretty sure they’re just empty eye sockets… Which makes me wonder why he’s pretending to read the paper? 🤔

  • ilega_dh@feddit.nlEnglish
    216·
    1 month ago

    Wow the cartoonist really destroyed their opponent in this imaginary scenario!

    Also why tf does the boy have demonic eyes

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      122·
      1 month ago

      Yeah this is fantasy.

      Oh, I thought this meme was meant to be a documentary on school-age children. Now that I know that it isn’t, I can…

      … what do I do with this information, again?

      Seriously, I might quibble as to the line between history and prehistory (which a good portion of that 60,000 years would be), but there’s nothing here that’s fundamentally wrong.