Please. All of this is mostly US politics. Please do not hijack “world news” to mean whatever new shit Desantis or someone else said this week. Every other magazine/community/whatever is already full of that shit. Please.
Please. Please. Please.
US politics already swamp out most of the content on the entire fediverse. It may seem like the world to you but there’s almost 200 countries on this planet that are not the US.
PLEASE DO NOT.
Thank you.
So, submit more non US news?
Yeah I don’t think this is something planned you can turn a dial on. People are just posting their news and the origin of people here probably skews heavily US.
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Do you really think anyone outside the US thinks “freedom” is your main export? Lmao
I think the fact that he used scare quotes himself implies that they don’t believe the US actually exports freedom either.
Incredible that everything he wrote could be prefaced with that ridiculous assertion lol. It’s like having a large gem topped with a turd.
Meh, Europe has been dealing with fascist and other extremist people in politics for 20 years on a larger scale, and in some circles and areas of the world it’s never gone away. It’s nothing new, we just know better how to deal with them and they come and go. Instead of thinking it’s some new American thing the rest of the world needs to learn about, you should learn how politics elsewhere works.
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I don’t doubt we’re all fucked, but I don’t see how that means that I need to read about every school shooting, every Trump’s fart or every nonsense Musk says 300 times on my timeline. That thing about police dogs dying yesterday, on world news, that was also quite a pearl.
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People commenting “be the change you want to see” like it’s their first day in the internet.
Mods will either need to step up and ban US news, or folks who care will need to find a new comm that only allows international news.
Reddit had a good system for this (gasp)
News was for US news, Worldnews specifically banned US news. If you wanted US news you went to news, if you wanted to catch up on news elsewhere you went to worldnews.
This system right now only serves Americans and until a split is put in place it will only serve Americans because the only posts people will see will be the ones all the Americans upvote
It was an ok-ish system which could be justified by reddit being a US-based company. It would have been better for the US to have its own US named politics sub. But the fediverse isn’t based in one country, so the names can be a bit misleading for anyone browsing without Reddit-specific legacy knowledge.
There does need to be some way of reducing at least the scattershot crossposting in multiple places for the exact same content though. I tried to subscribe to multiple news and politics communities to get more globally sourced media and comments, but instead it’s the exact same US-internal news links in triplicate from the same user. It’s frequently interesting news, but not necessarily globally impactful enough to take up most of the screen.
I would support there being a US news, or similar pattern. Just calling US news, :news" is ummm… it’s odd. It assumes the US is the center of things - and we aren’t. And may be even less central as the world catches up (on the things we get right/might).
Or mods need to ban those who are whining. Look at the side bar: news from around the world, not news impacting the world. Don’t like it? Down vote it, and post more content that you’d like to see.
Problem is that these Americans talk. A lot.
The grim reaper in Monty Python wasn’t just whining. The struggle is real.
You’ve got the power to be the change you want to see.
If it is a story from the US that would make international news if it were in another country, it should be posted here. I’m from Canada, US politics is world news to me. Their wretched politics seeps across our border, it’s material to my day to day life to stay abreast of the broad current events in the US, just like the UK.
This is ultimately just pointless whining. Also, “the entire fediverse” is taken up by us politics? It’s barely a big deal on Lemmy.world as a whole.
Seeing US news just means there are more US posters. You need to increase participation from other people. It’s not stopping others from posting.
Want more non-US news? The answer isn’t less US news. That doesn’t make it magically have other content.
We get it, you have an axe to grind with US Americans thinking they’re the center of attention.
It’s not about having more similarly pointless content, it’s about having less of it. Well unless world news really means all kinds of news from everywhere, i.e. any little village anywhere. Dog got lost? World news. Corruption scandal in a town of 300? World news…
Pretending that US national politics doesn’t affect the world is deceptive at best, naive at worst.
I’m from Europe but also very interested in US politics. I still think that the bullshit that’s happening in Florida with DeSantis or PragerU, just as an example, is not world news worthy.
How DeSantis is polling for the Republican primaries is worthy to be posted in world news, I would say.
It’s a fine line, but the fact that there are other communities where the latter can be discussed in depth, makes it fair to require world news to not be muddied with internal US politics posts. Also for US citizens, to more easily find news pertaining to news outside the US.
That being said, I just browse through my feed without looking too much which community it was posted in, so it hasn’t bothered me personally.
I don’t disagree it would fit better elsewhere, which I’ve posted elsewhere, but you’ve made it clear you know the problem. A fine line is a fine line, and that’s what mods are for. People disagree over fine lines. That’s why the phrase exists. Complaining about it won’t fix it. This post is the equivalent of using a greataxe instead of a scalpel. The better solution is downvote, leave a comment, and maybe make a post and/or DM the mods about discussing the issue. I’m all for protesting and being loud about something, but you have to try the civil approach first.
I’m guessing the U.S. isn’t in the world?
US is literally becoming a menace to the World.
Always has been
“World news” and no news about India and Pakistan’s latest shenanigans. lmao.
I think you can post whatever you want.
Thats’s entirely a question of moderation. I do not.know how actively this community is moderated.
/l/politics already ran me off for trying to opine in on a more diverse political discourse than just US news.
Mod told me, “…all politics is local, and few care about international politics. You also have a language barrier that also makes global political forums less interactive.”
Then banished my opinion.
Wait do they think local is only for the USA? like somehow outside their borders local politics don’t exist because it is all some how “international”? Wait, does that mean they think when the USA does foreign policy that it is not “international”?
Wow, the mental gymnastics needed to be a member of the USA must be tiring.
They’re trying to defend their choice of community name (arguably not doing a good job in my opinion). A lot of people have been complaining in other communities and I think they’re getting defensive. Personally I think they chose poorly but ultimately it’s not my call, so whatever. Only ones who can force them to change would be lemmy.world mods. They’re saying there’s no such thing as generic politics and that it’d all be local to somewhere so their claim to the name is fine (at least that’s my interpretation based on what you said). Again, I disagree with the quality of their choice but I accept that it’s their choice.
We won’t know because the discussion is forbidden. I’m sure they’ll point to some ever changing reason like all good politicians
We need to make a new /I/politics then. I think we should call it USpolitics and the first rule is no Politics from the US. If people ask why, we can say politics was already taken by a group that only allows politics from the US.
Discussion is forbidden everyone!
Free speech for thee fuck me…no fuck you
Just follow the rules and you won’t have issues.
I already left your little circle jerk bro leave me alone creep
Just keeping the record clear. Modlogs are public so everyone can see why your comments were removed.
I have not seen any “hostile mods” on lemmy.world and everyone has the ability to put in a username in the modlog and see that you are lying. You had two comments removed total, but because of being uncivil to community members.
What kind of cult are they running over there?
I would take it with a grain of salt. From my experience, 9/10 users who complain about a ban embellish it so they look like they were in the right.
Oh I just noticed the little logo for them is the stupid uncle sam hat wearing lemming. well at least the .world one is.
LAME
Tbf, the lemmy.world politics community does have rules stating US-only posts. They could have chosen a better name, but they didn’t. World news doesnt have any such rules so it’s hard to know if their intent was foreign affairs related news between various countries or just news from around the world. Until they clarify, folks will likely interpret how they wish, and unfortunately it looks like that’s gonna lead to a bunch of US centric news (based on observation, though I don’t know why). Posting it in politics or uspolitics would reach a better audience, but folks are gonna do what they do.
In my opinion, the mods chose the name because US politics is the only news that matters to them. They could very easily open themselves up to other countries’ political news but they resist that. It just seems stupid to act like the US is the main character.
Ok? I don’t really care what their reasoning is. It’s hardly a big deal.
So it’s like the ‘world’ in ‘world series’?
When I grew weary of a specific perspective in certain places, and wanted to see a broader diversity… I started threads with citations from that viewpoint/fact-set.
It’s not the mods job to feed us threads. Their job is to keep things civil and to be fair to everyone who choses to participate.
I am aware of a mod’s role. What you said would make sense if it wasn’t stated in the rules themselves that only US politics is allowed in c/politics.
Hey it’s politics so it’s probably some dumb ass ex-military fools complaining that the government didn’t help them fuck others enough. I don’t know I ran away when all my conversations kept vanishing mid post.
World News is always bound to be dominated by the news of the spoken language. While English is spoken very broadly, the US is the dominant speaker by population. Most “international” news will be written in the native language of the afflicted area. Since people here want English content, you’re going up see mostly English speaking areas. Since the US is the largest, it’ll be mostly US news.
If you don’t like it, start sourcing interesting English content about non-english locations.
So if my quick math is right the news should be about 2/3s USA
331 million in the USA vs 132 million in Canada, UK, and Australia.
I mean it seems more then 2/3s, and I am not including the other 86 English speaking countries…
To do the math correctly, you’d need to start with their respective presence on the fediverse instead of the population by country.
On Reddit, there were/are some subreddits where you could/can talk about world news, and that means news from other countries outside US. But those news didn’t have to be specifically written in English. There was a non-forced rule to provide a translation in English to those news inside the comments. So, you could post about “Macron dit qu’il ne démissionnera”, and you can see in the comments the reasons why Macron won’t resign.
That would be a great solution to the lack of content in English about news from Spain, France, Italy…
English is spoken very broadly, the US is the dominant speaker by population
You did the numbers? You sure?
I bet there are more people who also speak English in India or China alone, but adding in every European country should be a large cherry on top.
While there are a lot of English speakers in India, it is not their native language. News about India will be written for Indians and will tend to use their regional language. Same goes for China and most other countries. Even in the EU where news might be interesting to other EU nations, news is often written in the affected nations language.
It’s just smart business to make your content tailored to the target audience.
It’s easier to google it than it is to live through an internet fight.
And it’s less embarrassing.
I’ve looked it up before in a similar thread.
