This car is a status symbol. It’s completely over dimensioned. It pollutes much more, without any added value in transport, harming air quality (people’s health) and climate, it diminishes other’s views on the road, it diminishes driver’s own view of a child crossing the road, it kills much more easily any unfortunate pedestrian. it’s a very strong statement of “fuck everyone else but me”, damaging this car count as self-defense.
There is so much anger to unpack here, I don’t even know where to begin. Violence directed behavior such as yours is just the start. In the near future you’d be trying assault people who think differently from you and could potentially kill someone. I think damaging your person before that happens would count as self defense.
It’s such a ridiculous argument that people in the United States driving pickup trucks are solely killing the planet. When it comes to climate damage, it ses to fall exclusively on the west. Not China or India, but exclusively Tundra drivers in the US.
Did I say that? Did I say they’re the only ones? I didn’t. I said that that extra pollution serves no good purpose. It’s for a status symbol and it’s not just in the US. Of course it’s not the only thing killing the planet but it’s the easiest thing to cut, and not even that is being cut.
Many people, myself included, use pickups this size for their livelihood. Mine is purposely modified with a lift and oversized tires for the daily off road use that is required for my work. Contractors use vehicles this size to haul loads of materials, tools, or people to jobsites. If you want to remove all of these vehicles from the road, then tell me what your replacement is. Tell me what I should be driving to get through 2+ feet of snow or 8+ inches of mud to do my job. You seem to want to dictate what other people are allowed to use, so in your infinite wisdom, what is the alternative?
Many maybe, but not most. Full-size trucks should be work only vehicles rather than personal ones. With audits done to ensure some work boss doesn’t just order some for fun when they don’t need them.
So we want to spend more money on policing people and their vehicles? There seems to be a misunderstanding on how rural America works. I don’t know many people, including myself, who can have both a work pickup and a car to piddle around in. My pickup was purchased with work in mind, but since it’s my only vehicle, I have to use it for day to day use as well. You can’t force people who live in rural areas to give up vehicles that are necessary for them in the places they live.
This whole issue about pollution is far more nuanced than just regulating pickups. Do you purchase products that are made in China, India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, etc.? If you do, this is more of a contributor to global pollution than pickup trucks in the west. I can reasonably guarantee that the forestry work I do does more at protecting the environment than your virtue signaling does.
Most people who own pickup trucks actually use the bed of the truck to haul stuff, or to two things with it. If you want a usable truck bed, Toyota is the best, you can lay a full 4x8 sheet of plywood or drywall down in it, most have well wells in them not making it less usable.
Giant SUV’s are the status symbols you think you are referring to.
Just because you don’t use a truck for it’s full capabilities everyday doesn’t mean you don’t have a valid reason to own it. That argument is ridiculously stupid. I live in the Midwest where you will find the most trucks. I know many truck owners. And almost everyone one of them has a truck to pull a trailer with, be it a boat or an RV. Can some SUVs do that, yes, but not all. And the ones that can, get even worse gas mileage.
With the current climate situation, I’m not so sure some people driving giant inefficient vehicles around all the time because they occasionally haul a boat or RV is a privilege humanity can afford. Rentals are a thing. I’ve never looked it up but I’m sure there’s boat moving services that will move them from marina to marina (or your yard). They’d probably still save money using those services or rentals because of how much cheaper cars generally are (though not all of them, Porsches are also pretty bad for fuel efficiency and are usually even more expensive than a full-size truck, and yes, after learning that I’m not opposed to getting them off the streets too).
This car is a status symbol. It’s completely over dimensioned. It pollutes much more, without any added value in transport, harming air quality (people’s health) and climate, it diminishes other’s views on the road, it diminishes driver’s own view of a child crossing the road, it kills much more easily any unfortunate pedestrian. it’s a very strong statement of “fuck everyone else but me”, damaging this car count as self-defense.
There is so much anger to unpack here, I don’t even know where to begin. Violence directed behavior such as yours is just the start. In the near future you’d be trying assault people who think differently from you and could potentially kill someone. I think damaging your person before that happens would count as self defense.
It’s such a ridiculous argument that people in the United States driving pickup trucks are solely killing the planet. When it comes to climate damage, it ses to fall exclusively on the west. Not China or India, but exclusively Tundra drivers in the US.
Did I say that? Did I say they’re the only ones? I didn’t. I said that that extra pollution serves no good purpose. It’s for a status symbol and it’s not just in the US. Of course it’s not the only thing killing the planet but it’s the easiest thing to cut, and not even that is being cut.
Many people, myself included, use pickups this size for their livelihood. Mine is purposely modified with a lift and oversized tires for the daily off road use that is required for my work. Contractors use vehicles this size to haul loads of materials, tools, or people to jobsites. If you want to remove all of these vehicles from the road, then tell me what your replacement is. Tell me what I should be driving to get through 2+ feet of snow or 8+ inches of mud to do my job. You seem to want to dictate what other people are allowed to use, so in your infinite wisdom, what is the alternative?
Many maybe, but not most. Full-size trucks should be work only vehicles rather than personal ones. With audits done to ensure some work boss doesn’t just order some for fun when they don’t need them.
So we want to spend more money on policing people and their vehicles? There seems to be a misunderstanding on how rural America works. I don’t know many people, including myself, who can have both a work pickup and a car to piddle around in. My pickup was purchased with work in mind, but since it’s my only vehicle, I have to use it for day to day use as well. You can’t force people who live in rural areas to give up vehicles that are necessary for them in the places they live.
This whole issue about pollution is far more nuanced than just regulating pickups. Do you purchase products that are made in China, India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, etc.? If you do, this is more of a contributor to global pollution than pickup trucks in the west. I can reasonably guarantee that the forestry work I do does more at protecting the environment than your virtue signaling does.
bro get sober the people that you love miss you
Most people who own pickup trucks actually use the bed of the truck to haul stuff, or to two things with it. If you want a usable truck bed, Toyota is the best, you can lay a full 4x8 sheet of plywood or drywall down in it, most have well wells in them not making it less usable.
Giant SUV’s are the status symbols you think you are referring to.
You pulled that “most” out of your ass. Most don’t use their full-size truck’s capabilities.
Just because you don’t use a truck for it’s full capabilities everyday doesn’t mean you don’t have a valid reason to own it. That argument is ridiculously stupid. I live in the Midwest where you will find the most trucks. I know many truck owners. And almost everyone one of them has a truck to pull a trailer with, be it a boat or an RV. Can some SUVs do that, yes, but not all. And the ones that can, get even worse gas mileage.
With the current climate situation, I’m not so sure some people driving giant inefficient vehicles around all the time because they occasionally haul a boat or RV is a privilege humanity can afford. Rentals are a thing. I’ve never looked it up but I’m sure there’s boat moving services that will move them from marina to marina (or your yard). They’d probably still save money using those services or rentals because of how much cheaper cars generally are (though not all of them, Porsches are also pretty bad for fuel efficiency and are usually even more expensive than a full-size truck, and yes, after learning that I’m not opposed to getting them off the streets too).
I drive a full size truck but mostly because i do not fit in other vehicles being almost 6’8