• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    Thing is, even in places where there are parties that cater to the younger electors, they don’t come out to vote.

    When Biden stepped aside, young people registered to vote in greater numbers than when Taylor Swift told them to.

    Listening to young people generates enthusiasm. But that would be bad for people who support genocide for the love of genocide. And foreign actors trying to influence US foreign policy.

    Capitulating to Republicans gains nothing, but the party keeps doing it anyway.

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      They registered, they have yet to vote.

      You’re allowed to look at examples from outside the US to form an opinion you know?

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        You keep ignoring that Democrats have no problem addressing the concerns of people who don’t vote for them, provided those people are Republicans.

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          Because, again, they have more votes to gain there than on the left where it’s mostly younger people that won’t turn out to vote either way.

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            Because, again, they have more votes to gain there

            Those never materialize, but Democrats do it anyway. It’s almost like they want to move to the right and will use any excuse to.

            than on the left where it’s mostly younger people that won’t turn out to vote either way.

            Versus Republicans who overwhelmingly vote against Democrats every time. Yeah, you just want to move to the right since it means continuing support for genocide.

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              Eh… They actually do materialize though…

              https://www.npr.org/2024/08/20/nx-s1-5081167/republicans-for-harris-coalitions-have-launched-in-several-swing-states

              And they’re reliable voters and there’s a lot of center right Democrats to lose that are reliable voters and the left has three choices anyway, not voting and letting Republicans win, voting Republican, voting Democrats.

              You might not like it, that’s the system the US is stuck with.

              Again, I’m not in the USA, I have no say in the matter, I just understand political strategy which seems like an issue with most left wing electors (because it goes against left with ideology and principles).

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                The highest figure in your article is 100 individuals.

                Guess 100 Republicans are worth 42,000 dead Palestinians

                Meanwhile, listening to voters and the very possibility of moving left pulled in 1000 times that number:

                https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/26/young-voter-registration-skyrockets-harris/74556135007/

                Again, I’m not in the USA, I have no say in the matter

                You’re right. You don’t. Don’t worry, neither do I. My name isn’t Netanyahu.

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                  Again, that’s registrations for a population that doesn’t turn out, let’s wait and see, but if you look at the % of support for Israel called on age and the % of voters by age, it’s clear that there’s a shit ton more Israel supporters that are reliable voters.

                  https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/20/politics/polling-democrats-divided-israel-palestine/index.html

                  69% disapproval amongst those under 35 that don’t turn out to vote vs 77% approval amongst those over 65 that do turn out to vote. And again, no matter how much you cater to them and how convenient you make it to vote, people under 35 just don’t bother voting!

                  https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/voter-turnout-rate-by-age-usa

                  https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=res&dir=rec/eval/pes2021/evt&document=p5&lang=e

                  Also the 100 Republicans vs 42k Palestinians is a false equivalency, those Palestinians don’t have voting right in the USA.

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                    Again, that’s registrations for a population that doesn’t turn out, let’s wait and see,

                    And in the meantime, make sure to do everything possible to alienate those voters so we can gleefully declare that they don’t vote so we can continue supporting genocide.

                    Israel supporters

                    Please stop calling genocide supporters “Israel supporters.” It’s dishonest.

                    69% disapproval amongst those under 35 that don’t turn out to vote vs 77% approval amongst those over 65 that do turn out to vote

                    “Fuck off, we don’t need you because you don’t vote! Wait! Why aren’t you voting? Welp, guess we have no choice! We get to support genocide!”

                    Also the 100 Republicans vs 42k Palestinians is a false equivalency, those Palestinians don’t have voting right in the USA.

                    God damn, you never miss a chance to be obtuse. Killing 42,000 Palestinians was worth it to you for a lousy 100 Republican votes.