• QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    I see what the writer is saying for sure but I’ll be honest and say Spider-Man wasn’t the best choice of superhero to try to make this point

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        He’s always depicted as hand-to-mouth poor.

        Of all the superheroes, he’s probably the most proletariat-affiliated.

        On the other side, there are examples like the Pym family, who destroy their stretch limos whenever they’re dirty to buy new ones.

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          He’s always depicted as hand-to-mouth poor.

          And when he started a business and started doing well financially they introduced a second Spider-Man who was broke again.

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      I just want to start this sentence with saying that I know literally nothing about Captain America, but I’m willing to bet that Captain America would be a much better choice. Maybe not the current reincarnation, as most movie studios have realized that not everyone is pro establishment. But maybe Captain America of a few decades ago.

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        I mean, there was k8nd of a whole event that lead to a massive super powered civil war where Cap lead the charge on the “rebel,” side. The movie didn’t do it justice, at all, but still had Cap on the anti-government interference side.

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          While you were writing that, I was expanding my comment as the current (2010ish and later) super hero writers have kind of realized that government isn’t inherently good. Which time frame are you referencing?

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        Maybe the Captain America from the first comics, but the good stories of Captain America are good precisely because they show Captain America realizing that the “American Dream” he is supposed to represent is really just a dream and does not exist in reality.

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        Captain America in 1970s briefly abandoned being captain America after preventing the US president from doing a coup as a cult leader

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        Yeah the first Tom Holland Spider-Man has a protagonist that was a union guy who spent his savings trying to keep his business alive but buying the alien tech cleanup contract. The government under Tony starks direction takeover the cleanup and fail to repay the union guy who then turns to theft violence and eventually murder.