• Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win
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    Voting isn’t just about winning this election

    No, it literally is just about winning the election. You’re confusing it with polls.

    it’s about shaping the future direction of our politics.

    Agreed. But as I’ve already started it is in the opposite direction you intend, unless… If I’m hearing you correctly your goal is to knowingly spoil the legit candidate so when they lose they’ll lick their wounds, look at the voting data and learn the lesson to be more sympathetic to your demands in 4 years?

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          It doesn’t work against my goals at all. I am voting for who best aligns with my values.

          It may work against YOUR goals, but not mine. You are allowed to vote for who you want. As I am allowed to vote for who I want.

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            It doesn’t work against my goals at all

            This is a youthful understanding of action vs its consequences. You intend to vote for x due to an apparently myopic sense of ethics, but the logical result is that -x^2 gets elected. As such rational observers must conclude -x^2 is your political goal.

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              My vote is grounded in my personal values, and I’m choosing a candidate who best represents them, regardless of the outcome.

              If another result occurs as a consequence of that vote, then so be it, but that’s not my primary goal.

              Voting for what I believe in isn’t a “youthful” or “myopic” act—it’s a deliberate choice to support a vision for the future that aligns with my principles. I’m focused on the long-term impact of pushing for real change, rather than just maintaining the status quo.

              Also, I wish I were “youthful” enough to actually fit your criticism. But I have been voting for longer than you have been alive.

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                You claiming you’re old enough to know better isn’t helping your case. Actions have consequences that can be both predictable and against your original intentions. In this case they are and continuing to choose to do so despite knowing this is… unhealthy and counterproductive which brings us full circle.

                At this point all you have done is failed to refute the argument with anything other than obstinance so have a good day.

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                  Understanding that actions have consequences is precisely why I’m voting based on my values rather than out of fear of unintended outcomes. My comment about was my age was in response to the comment implying that I was making a “youthful” mistake.

                  The predictable consequence of continually voting for the lesser evil is perpetuating a system that doesn’t truly represent the people’s needs or desires.

                  Voting third party is not counterproductive—it’s a conscious choice to push for real change, even if the immediate outcome isn’t a win.

                  My decision is based on principles, not obstinance, and I feel comfortable that standing by those principles is the right approach for me and my lifestyle.

                  You haven’t changed my mind at all. As I haven’t changed yours. And that’s ok. You have a good day too!