• chakan2@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Earlier that day, the child allegedly spit at a teacher. Now, he was in handcuffs and a police officer was saying he could end up in jail.

      Well…that’s assault…what would you like the teacher to do in that situation?

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        2 months ago

        Once upon a time, back in the dark ages when I was in school, kids like that were sent to the principal’s office, at which point they might be given detention, suspension, or even expulsion.

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          Hell when I was a kid having meltdowns it usually took me chucking a chair for the police to be called. Me spitting while only partially melting down was usually seen as a throw him at the principal problem.

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          We can’t expel children any more. And I’m betting this was the last straw after several detentions.

          What would you like the teacher to do then?

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              2 months ago

              I guess you can expell children in my state, but the paperwork and procedure makes it almost impossible. The teacher would have to go through the equivalent of a small trial…and that’s only if it’s a normal kid. If a parent says ADHD the kid can’t be expelled.

              It’s fucking weird to arrest kids, I get that. But as someone with a kid in school, I’ve seen how batshit crazy school has gotten.

              If I had spit on a teacher growing up, I’d immediately have been expelled and thrown in juvie. Welcome to alternative education.

              I believe the teachers. They’re under paid and dealing with the craziest fucked up post COVID generation in history.

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                If I had spit on a teacher growing up, I’d immediately have been expelled and thrown in juvie.

                Where on Earth did you grow up that spitting on a teacher would have ended with you being thrown in juvenile detention? Can you provide any evidence of this?

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        2 months ago

        Wipe it off, tell the child in no uncertain terms that this is never acceptable, and if it continues being confrontational to that degree, send it to the principal’s office to get detention.

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            2 months ago

            You’re talking as if there weren’t pedagogic professionals who have solved this problem. If a child is that unwilling to conform even slightly, the child either has special needs and doesn’t belong there, or, more likely, there’s shit going down at the child’s home and CPS need to get involved.

            I’m thoroughly baffled that you think there’s any kind of argument to be made for corporeal punishment. The scientific world has solved and moved on a century ago. The backwater sticklers who still don’t get it are harmful Luddites, not people with opinions to take seriously.

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              I’m absolutely not for corporeal punishment. I am ok with a kid being arrested.for assault.

              Take it or leave it, but there are some children that just shouldn’t be in the public school system for whatever reason.

              I absolutely am for better mental health resources and special needs programs. Being tolerant of neurodivergent children is great, I’m all for it, until they are violent or make teaching the other kids impossible.

              Then…I don’t know…arresting the kid seems reasonable if they been repeatedly violent and disruptive.

              Teachers have their hands tied when dealing with violent children. I don’t know what the answer is.