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      2 months ago

      Yes. Defend Taiwan from a Chinese invasion that threatens their sovereignty. One that is continuously threatened by China and one Taiwan actively prepares for.

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        2 months ago

        Yes. Defend Taiwan from a Chinese invasion that threatens their sovereignty.

        Yes. Defend Taiwan from a Chinese invasion that threatens their sovereignty the USA access to the main semiconductor manufacturer in the world

        FIFY

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          2 months ago

          That would be dumb. Taiwan is a better asset if they have an independent government that’s on the same page geopolitically. Australia bucked the USA’s geopolitical agenda, and they got couped.

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            That would be dumb. Taiwan is a better asset if they have an independent government that’s on the same page geopolitically

            Which is why the US wants to “defend democracy” there, that is clearly what I mean… they want a Taiwan that is subservient to the USA, not an independent Taiwan that would actually be independent

            Australia bucked the USA’s geopolitical agenda

            I don’t understand what “bucked” means in this context

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              In this context the Australian people voted for an administration that would no longer “co-operate” with the USA’s geopolitical aims, they “bucked”/rejected the agenda. The USA responded by pressing those in power to create a constitutional crisis and replace the administration.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional_crisis

              I guess my point is that America doesn’t engage in the same tactics as China does in regards to Taiwan, or that hemisphere, probably because of distance. The USA favors regime change over making a new colony.

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            2 months ago

            no, you are right… track record shows USA is interested in defending other countries for the sake of freedom, liberties and the American way… not at all for self interest

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              No country takes action based on moral grounds. They only take action for their self interest. This is international relations 101. Sometimes these align! Sometimes… not so much.

              What Taiwan has done is made the “good” outcome (Taiwan remains free and independent) align with the US’s self interest (having computers and a tech based economy).

              The US will always exert power over Taiwan, so will China. That’s just what great powers do. However, China doesn’t need to threaten an invasion to do this. There is no reason China can’t relinquish their claim on Taiwan and just build a casual trade relationship with Taiwan.

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                2 months ago

                However, China doesn’t need to threaten an invasion to do this. There is no reason China can’t relinquish their claim on Taiwan and just build a casual trade relationship with Taiwan.

                Not justifying China’s methods or intentions at all, but you know what you are claiming is impossible

                The USA can (and has before) forbidden third parties to run businesses with other countries… As they have already done to China itself.

                It would be completely naive for China to assume they won’t be cut off from the very valuable industry Taiwan has once the USA establishes itself as the sole/mayority buyer

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              Nobody said it wasn’t for self interest, it’s just nothing like the situation between Taiwan and China at all. Like not even close. I think you need to inform yourself on some regional history.