I am not following this year’s place, but last year, in the end, they removed all colours but white and so everyone was placing white. I assume this is what’s happening here. And it so happened to coincide with the appearance of the huge fuck spez message
Edit: Just opened Reddit and checked place, it’s as I said. Only white colour left.
I don’t know whether I’d call that intentional. Mods Admins still retain and already utilized the power to wipe whatever they wish. They left the other renditions before this more or less alone (to my knowledge), to be overwritten by users during the natural course of things.
If he were that concerned about what was being written, I doubt he would wait to be certain the very last image of the finished r/place was a giant fuck-you billboard. He’d either wipe every fuck or try to end it after this one is gone so he can pretend it ended on a good note.
I honestly don’t think mutual respect should be predicated on whether one is being paid or not, so…I’m not sure I’m going to do that. Or at least, very loudly for reason of grammatical accuracy instead of that one.
You’d be suggesting u/awkwardtheturtle — an unstable, camping powermod with a habit of pinning their own wildly sexist comments to the top of every thread and then insta-banning anyone who had a problem, whose shittiness caused a whole petition about it — should be ok, actually, because they’re not (officially) paid, and that I should do whatever strikes my fancy here as well.
If any person doesn’t want the stress of abiding by the social contract, they really shouldn’t be interacting with others, but instead they deliberately accepted a position of power.
I honestly don’t think mutual respect should be predicated on whether one is being paid or not, so…I’m not sure I’m going to do that.
I’m not sure where respect vs. disrespect figures in this discussion. Are you saying that removing comments/banning is inherently disrespectful?
You’d be suggesting u/awkward the turtle — a user whose habit of pinning their own wildly sexist comments to the top of every thread and then insta-banning anyone who had a problem caused a whole petition about it — should be ok, actually, because they’re not (officially) paid, and that I should do whatever strikes my fancy here as well.
I did not say or suggest anything of the sort. Please show me where you are getting that idea.
If any person doesn’t want the stress of abiding by the social contract, they really shouldn’t be interacting with others, but instead they deliberately accepted a position of power.
I don’t even know what we’re talking about anymore. Being a mod or an admin is not about “the social contract.” It’s about enforcing rules either as a paid employee of the site or as an unpaid community volunteer. Being a jerk is just being a jerk, regardless of what position you’re in as you act like a jerk. I just don’t see the relevance here unless you’re trying to claim every action taken by mods/admins against a user (such as removals/bans) is somehow violating the social contract. But seeing as that is a ridiculous assertion I’m going to assume that is not what you’re saying.
I think we’re talking slightly to the left of each other, yeah. I think if it was intended as a casual joke, it didn’t come off that way to me, especially coming as it did in response to my remark that both groups had a near-identical reputation for acting shitty.
Banning someone is just banning them, we agree. The logic I took from that was that, though both admins and mods could be ass, only one side was paid not to be ass and that fact alone should be reason to separate them.
Which obviously I’m never not going to fight about, because it leads to stuff like
• Bezos: revolting person, paid to look after his employees but makes them piss in bottles because he’s hiding a piss kink.
• Political/religious group of your choice, every abusive parent, etc.: good people, being utterly shit to everything around them til they blessedly die is more of a hobby.
The saddest part is this is a completely believable position for an internet stranger to take, so I just went ahead and believed that.
The context also probably comes off WAY differently if you happen to have been a mod yourself, e.g. implied wartime flashbacks I hopefully never have to relate to.
Being a mod or an admin is not about “the social contract.” It’s about enforcing rules either as a paid employee of the site or as an unpaid community volunteer. Being a jerk is just being a jerk, regardless of what position you’re in as you act like a jerk. I just don’t see the relevance here.
I would argue that it is about that. Your ability to inspire confidence in and work with the people you’re supposed to be moderating hinges in part on your ability to act fairly and decently.
80% of us are here because the CEO of Whatever Platform couldn’t do that. Reddit still works. My old boss lost her entire workforce in a day sans one person because she couldn’t manage that, even though she was technically able to run a store without hitting bankruptcy. Perfectly kingly rulers have died because they were pieces of shit.
Not discounting that modding a large community seems a horrendous experience, that doing that unpaid is probably wrong, and that trolls don’t reproduce the way zombies do.
I am saying if you want power at all, it’s to everyone’s benefit that you know how to handle whoever’s at your mercy. It’s implied in the job
They removed all colors but white from the selection, so the massive number of bots would try to update something, but only paint white instead, doing the wipe for them.
I don’t think investors care if the image says “fuck spez”. I mean, whoever is dumb enough to “invest” in reddit probably doesn’t know that spez is the same dude trying to sell them the idea of investing in reddit.
I’m willing to bet they’ll care. When your community is vocal enough about such an issue to crowd out others? Yeah, that’s not a good sign for their investment. And it’s all directed at a single person.
Can someone explain to me that is happening?
I am not following this year’s place, but last year, in the end, they removed all colours but white and so everyone was placing white. I assume this is what’s happening here. And it so happened to coincide with the appearance of the huge fuck spez message
Edit: Just opened Reddit and checked place, it’s as I said. Only white colour left.
I don’t know whether I’d call that intentional.
ModsAdmins still retain and already utilized the power to wipe whatever they wish. They left the other renditions before this more or less alone (to my knowledge), to be overwritten by users during the natural course of things.If he were that concerned about what was being written, I doubt he would wait to be certain the very last image of the finished r/place was a giant fuck-you billboard. He’d either wipe every fuck or try to end it after this one is gone so he can pretend it ended on a good note.
I think you mean admins.
Fair enough. I think I’ve had so much ire for so long over identical behavior from both groups that they’ve melded together in my mind
Well, one group gets paid to put up with you and the other group doesn’t, so maybe disentangle that a tad lol
I honestly don’t think mutual respect should be predicated on whether one is being paid or not, so…I’m not sure I’m going to do that. Or at least, very loudly for reason of grammatical accuracy instead of that one.
You’d be suggesting u/awkwardtheturtle — an unstable, camping powermod with a habit of pinning their own wildly sexist comments to the top of every thread and then insta-banning anyone who had a problem, whose shittiness caused a whole petition about it — should be ok, actually, because they’re not (officially) paid, and that I should do whatever strikes my fancy here as well.
If any person doesn’t want the stress of abiding by the social contract, they really shouldn’t be interacting with others, but instead they deliberately accepted a position of power.
I’m not sure where respect vs. disrespect figures in this discussion. Are you saying that removing comments/banning is inherently disrespectful?
I did not say or suggest anything of the sort. Please show me where you are getting that idea.
I don’t even know what we’re talking about anymore. Being a mod or an admin is not about “the social contract.” It’s about enforcing rules either as a paid employee of the site or as an unpaid community volunteer. Being a jerk is just being a jerk, regardless of what position you’re in as you act like a jerk. I just don’t see the relevance here unless you’re trying to claim every action taken by mods/admins against a user (such as removals/bans) is somehow violating the social contract. But seeing as that is a ridiculous assertion I’m going to assume that is not what you’re saying.
I think we’re talking slightly to the left of each other, yeah. I think if it was intended as a casual joke, it didn’t come off that way to me, especially coming as it did in response to my remark that both groups had a near-identical reputation for acting shitty.
Banning someone is just banning them, we agree. The logic I took from that was that, though both admins and mods could be ass, only one side was paid not to be ass and that fact alone should be reason to separate them.
Which obviously I’m never not going to fight about, because it leads to stuff like
• Bezos: revolting person, paid to look after his employees but makes them piss in bottles because he’s hiding a piss kink.
• Political/religious group of your choice, every abusive parent, etc.: good people, being utterly shit to everything around them til they blessedly die is more of a hobby.
The saddest part is this is a completely believable position for an internet stranger to take, so I just went ahead and believed that.
The context also probably comes off WAY differently if you happen to have been a mod yourself, e.g. implied wartime flashbacks I hopefully never have to relate to.
I would argue that it is about that. Your ability to inspire confidence in and work with the people you’re supposed to be moderating hinges in part on your ability to act fairly and decently.
80% of us are here because the CEO of Whatever Platform couldn’t do that. Reddit still works. My old boss lost her entire workforce in a day sans one person because she couldn’t manage that, even though she was technically able to run a store without hitting bankruptcy. Perfectly kingly rulers have died because they were pieces of shit.
Not discounting that modding a large community seems a horrendous experience, that doing that unpaid is probably wrong, and that trolls don’t reproduce the way zombies do.
I am saying if you want power at all, it’s to everyone’s benefit that you know how to handle whoever’s at your mercy. It’s implied in the job
To be fair, the mods of r/place are admins are they not?
They removed all colors but white from the selection, so the massive number of bots would try to update something, but only paint white instead, doing the wipe for them.
only white squares can be placed now.
@rImITywR Oh is that what happened? I thought it was a complete reset. Making it so only white tiles can be placed makes it even worse imo.
@plushycat @Dr_Wu
This is how /r/place always ends. Reddit takes a snapshot of the final canvas, then switches everyone over to placing only white tiles.
Wonder if they’ll share the final snapshot.😆
Oh it’ll make all the news. Spez’s attempt to distract (and drive traffic) is just going to attract more attention to the issue.
I don’t think investors care if the image says “fuck spez”. I mean, whoever is dumb enough to “invest” in reddit probably doesn’t know that spez is the same dude trying to sell them the idea of investing in reddit.
I’m willing to bet they’ll care. When your community is vocal enough about such an issue to crowd out others? Yeah, that’s not a good sign for their investment. And it’s all directed at a single person.
They generally do.
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